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Trying to ID this gold Kennedy something.

#1 Unread post by tomdepascale »

This is a friend of mine who is a jeweler who owns this. I was looking at some us gold coins he had and he asked if I had ever seen this. It tested positive for gold. I tried to find it on the internet but could not. He thinks it may be a jewelry piece but it is the size of a Morgan. Just trying to find out what it is, thanks
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#2 Unread post by Earle42 »

The only way I know to ID this is by searching for similar coins on the internet. Although if you can find some sort of makers' mark on it, the search would be easier. It is not a US mint issue.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
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#3 Unread post by tomdepascale »

Yes there is a stamp after the 4 nines on the reverse but it is very difficult to make out. I have spent a hour and a half looking on the net and no luck yet. I found a couple with a very similar obverse but different reverse and some were plated. Hoping someone out there knows what the heck this is. It is poorly struck and a bad attempt to make a DMPL out of it, the field are pretty good mirror like but the devices look as if they were sand blasted.
Again just trying to figure out what this is, thanks for the insight, Tom

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#4 Unread post by Daniel »

This isn't a US Mint product so until you find out which private mint made these then it's going to be difficult to ID.

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Yes I will see him again on Friday and try to decipher the mint mark.

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#6 Unread post by Earle42 »

Just so you know, there is no mint mark. A mint mark is a specifically a mark (letter) placed on coins by made at an official mint for making coins to be used for buying/selling.

Your token was made by a company that was producing its own product for sale.
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#7 Unread post by tomdepascale »

Bad word choice on my part meant makers mark which it has next to the 9999, thanks again, Tom

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#8 Unread post by Paul »

Earle42 wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:57 am Just so you know, there is no mint mark. A mint mark is a specifically a mark (letter) placed on coins by made at an official mint for making coins to be used for buying/selling.

Your token was made by a company that was producing its own product for sale.
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#9 Unread post by Daniel »

It's not a US Mint product so it's not going to have a mint mark.

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#10 Unread post by monsterbug1 »

probably one of the private mints. looks cool. I'd sell as a generic 4 9's fine gold round

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#11 Unread post by Daniel »

But it might just be plated in .9999

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#12 Unread post by Earle42 »

I agree
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
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#13 Unread post by tomdepascale »

No solid gold as tested at his jewelry store on a machine, forgot the name of the machine, but that like xray gizmo. Waiting for the makers mark but interesting investigation, thanks to all for looking.

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#14 Unread post by Earle42 »

Let us know if you find it. POsting to this forum will help others who may encounter the same coin b/c titles are indexed for the search option.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
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#15 Unread post by tomdepascale »

Yes mystery not solved yet, away for a week at the beach Wildwood / Cape May NJ.
I have to get back to the guy who owns it to get a better look at what I think is a makers mark after the nines to distorted in picks to make it out. Keep you posted.

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#16 Unread post by tomdepascale »

Here is the makers mark to me looks like P then a star then a B. PB is used by Paul Brackna a gold designer but what I can find is just PB not the design I see on the piece. Any help with this would be great.
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#17 Unread post by Earle42 »

Interesting, but since this is not actually a US coin, a token or medal collector/source might be the best bet.

While someone else on here may have more info, the best I could do is to use a search engine using the maker's mark - which I assume you have already done.
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#18 Unread post by tomdepascale »

Yes I have been looking for this mark on the internet but no luck so far. The mystery continues. Good idea to search out a token medal collector site.

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#19 Unread post by tomdepascale »

Sent the pictures to the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library, who knows maybe they have a clue. I will let you know

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#20 Unread post by tomdepascale »

copy of return email
Museum Dept. <museumjfk@nara.gov>
Mon, Aug 29, 10:46 AM (21 hours ago)
to Museum, Kennedy, me

Dear Tom:
Thank you very much for your email. There were so many commemorative medals and coins made after President Kennedy's death that sometimes it can be very hard to identify medals that people have in their collection. I have reviewed many medals that the Library has in their collection, and I have not found one that matches the one in your photograph. I am very sorry that we can't provide more information. Have you contacted an appraiser to have them look at the medal for you? This might be your best option. The Library staff is not able to evaluate an object that is not within our collection.

I wish you the best in your research quest!
All my best,
Heather Mason
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#21 Unread post by Earle42 »

I think it was a good idea to send the info to them hoping they had seen one.

The thing is, as they said, there are just so many JFK themed coins, tokens, etc. worldwide. BTW< I note they mentioned value also. The problem with such tokens is that b/c there are so many different ones, they gnerally will not sell for much. This idea goes for tokens in general.

I think the people collecting them are all about the fun of tracking down the history of the token.
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#22 Unread post by tomdepascale »

I Agree , well I think I may call it a day with this search. I appreciate everyone's assistance, Tom

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#23 Unread post by Earle42 »

Maybe one of these days you will be online and..."Hey! That's what I was looking for!"
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8

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