Strange 194x-D 1c (mint error?)

[Earle42]

Wow - that one is strange. Might be worth contacting Mike Diamond. I also asked one of the top error specialists on another forum to come here to look also (Coop). I have not seen him stumped much since 2011 when I joined there :)

[xapatrick]

kcm- ok now I see what you were saying. And right now, it's the leading theory! lol.

Earle42- Thanks for inviting a top specialist to have a look! I'll be anxious to hear what he says.

[Earle42]

Sometimes Coop takes awhile, I have this thread alerting my email for new posts. He also has hundreds of pics he makes available for people describing errors etc. Mike Diamond is also on that forum and if Coop cannot tell, Mike is the noted expert in the numismatic hobby for errors. The TPGs, magazines, etc. respect and value his opinions.

[Daniel]

Post mint creation, someone altered this coin and what looks like "AMERICA" has been carved but really doesn't look like the letters in AMERICA, they're the wrong size and shape. So I will stick with post mint damage until somewhere higher than my pay grade proclaims it a new mint error. Of which I do not believe will happen.

The thing is similar or same toning doesn't mean it happened at the mint, if it happens early enough in the coin's life. I've see graffiti and scratches with the same patina as the rest of the coin.

[xapatrick]

Daniel, thank you for your input. The last thing I would want to do is be a brand new member here, and then disagree with you on your opinion. Your conclusion that it is post mint damage could well be true, but I am convinced that the obv flattened area, including the letters of AMERICA, were struck onto this coin. All the fields of the flattened area are smooth with wear consistent with a coin of that age, including around and between the AMERICA letters, but absolutely no suspect tooling or grinding marks, and the edges of the letters (though you're right they are imperfect and not a font of a US coin I'm aware of) are very sharp. If carved, why the slight distortion of the top of the reverse? How could they have recessed the areas of the the letters E PLURIBUS UNUM? In fact, if there is any distortion to the reverse, it is that E PLURIBUS UNUM may be slightly elongated, as is the coin. I think this more consistent with a strike. But if struck, how were the wheat ears and ONE kept perfect?

I know I have the advantage of having the coin in hand. But I am very willing to send it to whoever among you (Paul?) or other experts to examine it. I've watched many of your videos, Daniel, and they are excellent, so I'm pretty sure this may be the only time I disagree with you!

[Paul]

I'd be happy to look at it for you.....
There is currently an issue with the site interpersonal communication system.
If you would like me to call you with the information, please forward your phone number to me.

Can you look into this for me Daniel, I'm not able to send personal messages to
anyone anyhow.

[xapatrick]

Great, thx Paul! I couldn't find how to message in this system, so I sent my ph # to your CONECA email.

[Paul]

Here are my images......

[xapatrick]

Great pics, Paul. Thanks!

[scatrat]

Hello all, I'm wondering if anyone is familiar with a 1940 Jefferson Nickel? I found one and its not in completely bad shape. Some of the devise can still be seen and it weighs 4.64 grams. Were there any experimental coins created?

[Paul]

Here's my submit results

[Coin Mule]

Hi Paul, here is a great opportunity for me to learn something. I see your results, but I don't understand the title 'Strange 194x-D 1c (mint error?)". Since I am new, is this coin shorthand or slang. I see they called the 1942 D an "ex lucky piece holder", and that part I understand, but, well anyway, TIA if you respond.

Doug B

[Paul]

Doug,
I am as confused as you are… I need to wait to see the actual printing on the paper in the slab