1880 Vam 13 Proof Morgan opinions

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Re: 1880 Vam 13 Proof Morgan opinions

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It must match them all, since regular coins can have similar die marks

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i tried to get a pic with this phone camera but you cant see it clear enough
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two bulges on the D of DOLLAR
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i can do a quick video of the coin so you can see it better if you like but not sure how i would post that on here

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It must match all and exactly not just a couple, pl business strikes can have similar die marks.

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The Reverse die can be identified by two bulges on the D of DOLLAR and a nearly vertical die scratch above the eagle's right foot. This same die was used for proof coinage for all 1879 and 1880 Morgans. A useful marker to identify circulated proofs. This reverse die has never been confirmed on any business strike for the three years it was in service.

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May I ask "Who", attributed this coin?......

..... And, did you purchase it as a "Vam 13"?

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vam 13 was wrote on the label when i bought it but i just bought it as a proof coin not sure if the dealer attributed it or if he bought it like that from looking on vam world it seems to be the Vam 13 but im not 100%

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Hum... I would send it off and have it graded. A proof should not be raw and sold since most have no idea how to ID die marks, and that goes for many dealers.

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ill see if i can get someone to send it to NGC for me ill have to check a couple coin shops

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Daniel wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:08 pm Hum... I would send it off and have it graded. A proof should not be raw and sold since most have no idea how to ID die marks, and that goes for many dealers.
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