1956 six pence reverse rotational die misalignment?

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1956 six pence reverse rotational die misalignment?

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I was going through a bunch of foreign coins I had placed into a old coffee container. I figured it was about time to search them and organize them. I ran across this 6 Pence. I found that it is possible a reverse rotational die misalignment (I think that is what it is called). Here are the photos. Also note that even though the Obverse is blurry in the mirror you can still make it out.

6 pence obverse-horz.jpg


mirror 1.JPG


mirror 2.JPG

again I know the photo of the coin in the mirror is a little blurry, sorry about it.

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Re: 1956 six pence reverse rotational die misalignment?

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The further back you go the more common it is to find rotational issues with the dies, so usually no premium unless it's a larger denomination.

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Can you snap a photo of the obverse straight up, and the reverse in the mirror please?
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Ok these are best I can get. I have decided that I hate trying to take photos with a mirror.

6 pence both 1.JPG

6 pence both 2.JPG

6 pence 3.JPG

I hope that helps and are clear enough.
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Have you looked up the proper alignment?
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Re: 1956 six pence reverse rotational die misalignment?

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Yes I have the proper alignment is (can't remember the name) if you flip it over like a US coin the reverse will be upside down. I also remember this from I was stationed in Scotland. It is the same as with a Canadian coin. From what I can tell the coin is only off to the point that when looking a the reverse the Obverse figure of Elisabeth II has her head pointing to what would K2 on the opposite side (I think I said that right).
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Look up the different types of "Alignment"

There are 2 types you need to learn:
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Re: 1956 six pence reverse rotational die misalignment?

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Having searched all sites which were brought up with a Currency Misalignment search, they all referred to Currency Misalignment, as being a “country’s currency not valued at its trade-balancing equilibrium exchange rate” Footnote 1

PCGS defines the two types of die rotations as coin alignment and medal alignment.

This what they refer to as Coin Alignment.
“Rotate a coin from top-to-bottom, to the reverse side still holding the edge in the same two places. The reverse design is oriented completely 180 degrees from the obverse design it is now properly oriented towards you.” Footnote 2
Medal alignment
“Medal alignment is when the obverse and reverse are oriented identically” Footnote 3
The latter is common among medals, tokens, and Foreign coins.
To sum it up. The coin alignment is the way U.S. coins are produced (obverse and reverse are struck at 180 degrees). Medal alignment is what you find on a lot of foreign coins, medals, and tokens. The obverse and Reverse are struck in the same manner, that when the coins, tokens, and medals are rotated from top-to-bottom the reverse is upside down.



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1 currency alignment.
2 Coin Alignment
3 Medal Alignment
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Re: 1956 six pence reverse rotational die misalignment?

#9 Unread post by Paul »

I think you got it now....
Keep in mind that there is a "Tolerance" to the rotation, prior to any added value.

I can clearly recall seeing a seller, unloading non-silver circulated Kennedy half dollars............... for $90 each.............. calling them a 180° rotated reverse die. They were normal coins.

If I remember correctly, I think it was in India. Of course all of the buyers in that area, believed that they were picking up rare United States mint coins with errors. What a scam!
................ and he sold a huge quantity of them
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