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1940-S 5¢: "Delam" or "Struck Through"

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1940-S 5¢: "Delam" or "Struck Through"

#1 Unread post by Earle42 »

OK COINHelpers...

I saw this on another forum and thought it was a good coin to debate. It is posted here as a learning tool for newbies - and all the rest of us!

I have my opinion of the following whether its a delamination error or "struck through" coin. Let the debate begin and list why you chose the one you did. It will be educational for us all. Reading the clues on the surface will help form an opinion. I will post mine after awhile so I don't end up "offering" any of the clues yet and influence others. BTW...I also am not saying I am correct in my opinion, but I think I can make a decent "case."

I have been on the other forum since 2011 and have come to respect some of the members there greatly. Don't feel badly about posting your opinion b/c some of the ones over there debating are people I consider very knowledgeable in coins.
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This is about learning...not about getting a "right" answer. After hearing from people here I might also change my mind if they see something I do not.
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Re: 1940-S 5¢: "Delam" or "Struck Through"

#2 Unread post by SensibleSal66 »

Looks like a struck through to me anyways . : )
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#3 Unread post by Clint W »

I am not smart enough yet to give an opinion, I can only say that you can still see the E and L so that must say something.
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Re: 1940-S 5¢: "Delam" or "Struck Through"

#4 Unread post by muswell65 »

My chips are also on "strike through" due to loss of details caused by the interfering material filling the die cavity instead of the metal.

This is an interesting topic to me! Thanks for posting, Earle! I like the "learning opportunity" approach! You must have been a teacher ;) Looking forward to the much more experienced chiming it.

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#5 Unread post by Funky Strike »

I agree - This is an interesting example As a Young "Hunter" I do not know what this is?

I do notice that the Columns of Monticello are very weak - Is the because of the interfering material filling the Die Cavity as mentioned above?

How come the "E" and the "L" somehow aren't more distorted or altered?

Also - What's the little "bump" between the "L" in Monticello and the "S" in Cents?

Also noticed on the Obverse the Jefferson's Ponytail (Yes - one of our greatest Presidents had a ponytail!) is weak / faded as well

I hope the answer does not involve any more binary equations - I'm still having Precalc flashbacks from the last one y'all did!

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Re: 1940-S 5¢: "Delam" or "Struck Through"

#6 Unread post by Daniel »

Do you want my take on this?

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#7 Unread post by Earle42 »

Go for it! Its all about learning and you are the main teacher here 😊

I thought it would be a good exercise in teaching people how to sleuth their errors.
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#8 Unread post by Earle42 »

Funky Strike wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:43 pm I do notice that the Columns of Monticello are very weak - Is the because of the interfering material filling the Die Cavity as mentioned above?

How come the "E" and the "L" somehow aren't more distorted or altered?

Also - What's the little "bump" between the "L" in Monticello and the "S" in Cents?
Good clues to notice. 👍🏻
Also noticed on the Obverse the Jefferson's Ponytail (Yes - one of our greatest Presidents had a ponytail!) is weak / faded as well
Good you looked on both sides. But in this case its a red herring for the pony tail b/c that part of design is opposite the upper right above Monticello
I hope the answer does not involve any more binary equations - I'm still having Precalc flashbacks from the last one y'all did!

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Nah...just a discussion about the problems I have with the way they justify Einstein's idea about how space time curves due to gravity. Mirages are made from similar causes they cite. I am not sure I buy it. Relativity works for a lot of answers, but hey, quantum physics is also "known" to be true and the two contradict one another.

Just DON'T ask me to add two simple numbers together accurately without my fingers 😂
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Re: 1940-S 5¢: "Delam" or "Struck Through"

#9 Unread post by Triple C »

I am going with both, a Struck Through on a Delamination.
This is what caused the flake to rise and peel back, plus that looks like a lamination crack next to the S that goes up to the peeled back corner:
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Also notice how the peeled back corner continues to open along the edge to the southeast corner of the Struck Through...or maybe I am just seeing things and playing it safe lol

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#10 Unread post by SensibleSal66 »

I can't wait for the Answer . We almost there yet ?
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