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of you pay for a rare, 1911-D, $2.50 Indian Head gold, Strong D, in an ANACS holder that is details cleaned, AU55?

On April 20th, HA sold one for $2880 that was graded AU53.

The general rule of thumb is that a details coin is valued at 1 grade below the holder grade, right?

I would think it would be a steal at 2k. Thoughts?
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typeviic wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:21 am

The general rule of thumb is that a details coin is valued at 1 grade below the holder grade, right?

May I ask where you received this information please?
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ok, forget about that. how much would you pay?

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typeviic wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:21 am of you pay for a rare, 1911-D, $2.50 Indian Head gold, Strong D, in an ANACS holder that is details cleaned, AU55?

On April 20th, HA sold one for $2880 that was graded AU53.

The general rule of thumb is that a details coin is valued at 1 grade below the holder grade, right?

I would think it would be a steal at 2k. Thoughts?
Hey T, I would not buy a deets coin. My view is that, unless you had a collector that was looking for a $2.50 coin that was either, in a ANACS holder, or was going to crack it out of the ANACS holder to put it in a display set, it will not be easy to sell. Now if gold goes above 2k well that is another story. I know a dealer who has a stack of deets (details/cleaned) Morgans, in holders, that he cannot get rid of. This is what I have seen for the short time I have been in this market. Oh yes, the 1 grade below, nope, don't know where that came from. If it would sell for $1700 I would be surprised. But what do I know, just an Old Coin Mule.
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Just use ebay sold auctions to gage what they're selling for
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Coin Mule wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:34 pm
typeviic wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:21 am of you pay for a rare, 1911-D, $2.50 Indian Head gold, Strong D, in an ANACS holder that is details cleaned, AU55?

On April 20th, HA sold one for $2880 that was graded AU53.

The general rule of thumb is that a details coin is valued at 1 grade below the holder grade, right?

I would think it would be a steal at 2k. Thoughts?
Hey T, I would not buy a deets coin. My view is that, unless you had a collector that was looking for a $2.50 coin that was either, in a ANACS holder, or was going to crack it out of the ANACS holder to put it in a display set, it will not be easy to sell. Now if gold goes above 2k well that is another story. I know a dealer who has a stack of deets (details/cleaned) Morgans, in holders, that he cannot get rid of. This is what I have seen for the short time I have been in this market. Oh yes, the 1 grade below, nope, don't know where that came from. If it would sell for $1700 I would be surprised. But what do I know, just an Old Coin Mule.
Yeah, but this is gold were talking about. So for the right price, it is worth it.

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typeviic wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:57 am
Coin Mule wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:34 pm
typeviic wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:21 am
Yeah, but this is gold were talking about. So for the right price, it is worth it.
Well, 1911-D Indian Gold Quarter Eagle $2.50 Coin (Weak D) no issues, - PCGS AU50 - $1500.00, like I said 1700 would surprise me. I know the one you are showing is a strong D and also theoretically graded one step higher, but the cleaned/deets is a killer. But again, it is hard to place a fixed value, right place, right time, right product, right buyer, the sky is the limit.
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Hi everyone 👍
Happy Easter to all from Portugal.
My question pertains more to grading. Was taught to observe/ learn very young😜
AM not a coin expert but younger had perfect vision as was able to see flaws in diamond that experts needed to use a loupe, and yes did win many drinks on bets.
Grading companies are my problem plus every collector also. Just my opinion.
We take ngc 10-30 mercury dime graded ms 67 fsb ?
Inconsistency/ biased/ BUDDY grading HITS you so hard you can see who is NGC who is pimp on good terms hierarchy NGC or so called " whale collector,"
We take same graded coins and sue NGC for manipulation coin market? Evidence is graded coins + all proof baloney visible to anyone
Same goes for pcgs.
Costs lawsuit we get a gofund going.
Was looking for a ms67 FSB and got angry / disgusted how coin same company/ grade can have so noticeable difference, meaning can't trust any tpgs. Plus seems obvious ,I feel, grading companies think I am an idiot for trusting their grades.
Just my 1/2 cent worth
Be safe everyone.

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