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Well, the topic isn't dead, I've just changed my tastes a little bit. I've started collecting some of the Store Cards, but I'm buying them raw. There are just so many of these and I want to get a number of them. A little more circulated than prior coins, here's my first Store Card:
1863 NY Store Card: Gustavus Lindenmueller : NY630AQ-3a
THE tavern owner who made over a million tokens, commonly used as streetcar fare. When the railroad company asked him to redeem them, he refused. There was no legal recourse and the fall of the token began.
(I picked up this token from Daniel's Fair and Square Coin Auction on Facebook.)
1863 NY Store Card: Gustavus Lindenmueller : NY630AQ-3a
THE tavern owner who made over a million tokens, commonly used as streetcar fare. When the railroad company asked him to redeem them, he refused. There was no legal recourse and the fall of the token began.
(I picked up this token from Daniel's Fair and Square Coin Auction on Facebook.)
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I like that token and almost bid on it. I don't know why but I like these also, there's just something about their history and designs.
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Yeah, I didn't feel good about bidding against you, but this was one I have been looking at for a while and it happened to pop up for really cheap. It's a little more worn than I like, but I couldn't complain about the price.
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Another Store Card from New York. This one made by George Glaubrecht. (NY 630BO-2a)
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Another nice, interesting one.mhonzell wrote:Another Store Card from New York. This one made by George Glaubrecht. (NY 630BO-2a)
Wadda ya think- :eureka: Could Schulze's Restaurant possibly have been German? (With the Stag bust and name like that, I'm gonna vote Yea.) :confused:
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Thought I'd show that not every token is in the best of shape.
This Store Card was made by Charles D. Horter in the city of New York and is labeled as NY630M-2a. It appears to fairly circulated and probably a later die state... :l
What a mess!
Either this was a wonderful brockage and over-stamped with the One Country reverse, or a major die clash with a reconditioned One Country device. Most go with the idea that this was a die clash. In fact, there were three significant die clashes that occured with this die set. The first actually produces a fairly nice coin as it occurred early in the die's use (even though the die had already shattered.) The second clash results in a less visible indian head down in the lower legend and put the large die crack tying BROAS to the rim. The third created a second image of the O in ONE to the left of the central indian head clash. But, that didn't stop Charles from making more of these. The combination is easily found, but for some reason seldom in very good shape.
I personally love this one. This appears to be the second die clash version.
This Store Card was made by Charles D. Horter in the city of New York and is labeled as NY630M-2a. It appears to fairly circulated and probably a later die state... :l
What a mess!
Either this was a wonderful brockage and over-stamped with the One Country reverse, or a major die clash with a reconditioned One Country device. Most go with the idea that this was a die clash. In fact, there were three significant die clashes that occured with this die set. The first actually produces a fairly nice coin as it occurred early in the die's use (even though the die had already shattered.) The second clash results in a less visible indian head down in the lower legend and put the large die crack tying BROAS to the rim. The third created a second image of the O in ONE to the left of the central indian head clash. But, that didn't stop Charles from making more of these. The combination is easily found, but for some reason seldom in very good shape.
I personally love this one. This appears to be the second die clash version.
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Another Store Card, this one is identified as OH160I. Made for a baker in Chillicothe, Ohio by W.K. Lanphear. Somewhat mottled in color on the Liberty side. The advertisement side is in great shape with luster and redness, but has a couple of spots.
Liberty is sporting a winged helmet (which some identify as Mercury.) A similar device was also used on Patriotic Civil War tokens. (But, based on star positions, it is not any of the five identified ones.)
Best I can tell, William was a Missouri man who enlisted as a volunteer into the infantry. He was discharged as a Captain in Ohio on Sept. 11, 1862 when the battalion was renamed as the 22nd Regiment of Ohio. He must have simply planted roots and opened shop.
Liberty is sporting a winged helmet (which some identify as Mercury.) A similar device was also used on Patriotic Civil War tokens. (But, based on star positions, it is not any of the five identified ones.)
Best I can tell, William was a Missouri man who enlisted as a volunteer into the infantry. He was discharged as a Captain in Ohio on Sept. 11, 1862 when the battalion was renamed as the 22nd Regiment of Ohio. He must have simply planted roots and opened shop.
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Moving back into the Patriotic Civil War tokens, this is a F-105/355a. While it is in an uncirculated condition, some nimrod decided to poorly dip it in an attempt to clean it. Note the stains and overall "wrong" color. I wonder how long ago that happened? The stains are fairly darkened into the metal. Interestingly, the name and address of the die cutter is added below the star. Emil Sigel lived at 177 William Street in New York City (right across the street from Charles Horter! They traded dies on occasion.)
But, I really enjoy older coins and tokens bearing George Washington and did not have this one in my collection. This Washington star can also be found on some Store Cards. This one is listed as having a R-3 rating. That's not scarce, but people do not seem to let them go once found.
But, I really enjoy older coins and tokens bearing George Washington and did not have this one in my collection. This Washington star can also be found on some Store Cards. This one is listed as having a R-3 rating. That's not scarce, but people do not seem to let them go once found.
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And a great date to post Patriotic Tokens remembering some of our history. Really like seeing the varieties that you find with the background to go with them.
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Usually, you have to have been a sailor to remember 12/7. Were you once in the Navy?
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Mark- No, but a brother was (Vietnam) and one was in the Air Force.
That date was pegged by FDR pretty accurately. "...a date which will live in infamy". There have been some great reports the last couple of days on some of the remaining survivors of the Arizona. Very Inspiring to know their stories!!! I would like to go visit the Arizona Memorial one day.
Even though I never served in the military I have a lot of respect and regard for those who have, for a lot of reasons.
Integrity. Honesty. Commitment. A partial list of words to describe members of our armed forces. Thank you!- Cliff
That date was pegged by FDR pretty accurately. "...a date which will live in infamy". There have been some great reports the last couple of days on some of the remaining survivors of the Arizona. Very Inspiring to know their stories!!! I would like to go visit the Arizona Memorial one day.
Even though I never served in the military I have a lot of respect and regard for those who have, for a lot of reasons.
Integrity. Honesty. Commitment. A partial list of words to describe members of our armed forces. Thank you!- Cliff
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Next up, a store card from Roloff. Labeled as NY630F-2a. The difference between the -1 and -2 is where the eighth feather points. In this case, towards the letter "R", which makes it slightly more rare (R-3).
This one is in really nice shape. (In case you haven't noticed, I'm getting these raw nowadays.)
Originator of only a few patriotic Civil War tokens, he made a plethra of Civil War store cards. He seems to be responsible for a number of the oversize (24mm) planchet tokens in New York. (Of which this is one as it is slightly larger than a quarter.) It is believed he had a working relationship with Emil Sigel.
This one is in really nice shape. (In case you haven't noticed, I'm getting these raw nowadays.)
Originator of only a few patriotic Civil War tokens, he made a plethra of Civil War store cards. He seems to be responsible for a number of the oversize (24mm) planchet tokens in New York. (Of which this is one as it is slightly larger than a quarter.) It is believed he had a working relationship with Emil Sigel.
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Well, I guess it was bound to happen. I got a token that doesn't fit the category. In fact, it doesn't fit any category other than being a Merchant Token.
Classified as Miller Mich 10, this token was probably made between 1848 and 1854. After the Hard Times Token era and before the Civil War Token era. I saw the stove and fell for it. You see, D.A. Foster ran a General Store in Grand Rapids, Michigan starting in 1838 with E.G. Squier. He started making tokens as early as 1845 when he changed business partners to Thomas Parry. In 1855, Parry retired and Foster changed the company name to Foster & Co. During the Civil War, he changed partners again to Martin Metcalf. Each of his tokens bear this stove, but his partner during the Civil War was Metcalf, not Parry.
Still interesting, but "off-topic". I guess I'm posting it to warn that not all tokens of the time were Civil War Tokens or Hard Times Tokens. They were common advertising methods of the time.
Classified as Miller Mich 10, this token was probably made between 1848 and 1854. After the Hard Times Token era and before the Civil War Token era. I saw the stove and fell for it. You see, D.A. Foster ran a General Store in Grand Rapids, Michigan starting in 1838 with E.G. Squier. He started making tokens as early as 1845 when he changed business partners to Thomas Parry. In 1855, Parry retired and Foster changed the company name to Foster & Co. During the Civil War, he changed partners again to Martin Metcalf. Each of his tokens bear this stove, but his partner during the Civil War was Metcalf, not Parry.
Still interesting, but "off-topic". I guess I'm posting it to warn that not all tokens of the time were Civil War Tokens or Hard Times Tokens. They were common advertising methods of the time.
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Nice coin and you never know what you might run into with these; so many were made.
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A NY630D-1a by George Glaubrecht.
Although purists point out that this piece is technically a maverick since the city is not named, there's not much doubt about Bang's location: a few years later, in 1866, the New York Times reported that his restaurant at 231 Broadway had been heavily damaged by fire. There's also a certain amount of quibbling about the name Glaubrecht. Some listings even refer to "Glaubrecht Rhine Wines." However, I think it's far more likely that this is the mark of George J. Glaubrecht, a NYC diesinker who struck other Civil War store cards and patriotic tokens.
"THE GREAT FIRE CORNER OF BROADWAY AND BARCLAY STREET, APRIL 6, 1866.
BURNING OF BANG*S BUILDING.
New York, April 6, 1866.
Messrs. Herring & Co., No. 251 Broadway:
Gentlemen — The Herring Patent Safe we bought of you a few years ago has just been dug out from the ruins of the recent extensive fire, corner of Broadway and Barclay street. Our building, No. 231 Broadway, where the fire originated, was entirely burnt out, and we had barely time to escape with our lives. The safe was exposed to intense beat, yet we are happy to inform you that everything it contained — books, papers, and" money — are good as new.
H. J. BANG,
No. 231 Broadway. " - Fighting Fire for Twenty-Six Years
This same building had burned down in 1854 when it was a clothing store killing 25. (10 Firemen)
April 25th, 1854.
Although purists point out that this piece is technically a maverick since the city is not named, there's not much doubt about Bang's location: a few years later, in 1866, the New York Times reported that his restaurant at 231 Broadway had been heavily damaged by fire. There's also a certain amount of quibbling about the name Glaubrecht. Some listings even refer to "Glaubrecht Rhine Wines." However, I think it's far more likely that this is the mark of George J. Glaubrecht, a NYC diesinker who struck other Civil War store cards and patriotic tokens.
"THE GREAT FIRE CORNER OF BROADWAY AND BARCLAY STREET, APRIL 6, 1866.
BURNING OF BANG*S BUILDING.
New York, April 6, 1866.
Messrs. Herring & Co., No. 251 Broadway:
Gentlemen — The Herring Patent Safe we bought of you a few years ago has just been dug out from the ruins of the recent extensive fire, corner of Broadway and Barclay street. Our building, No. 231 Broadway, where the fire originated, was entirely burnt out, and we had barely time to escape with our lives. The safe was exposed to intense beat, yet we are happy to inform you that everything it contained — books, papers, and" money — are good as new.
H. J. BANG,
No. 231 Broadway. " - Fighting Fire for Twenty-Six Years
This same building had burned down in 1854 when it was a clothing store killing 25. (10 Firemen)
April 25th, 1854.
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Neat!
Maybe he was a doctor on the side judging by the " hypodermic device" formed by the die crack running through the I of Rhine! lol:
Maybe he was a doctor on the side judging by the " hypodermic device" formed by the die crack running through the I of Rhine! lol:
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Miller MA 20
This is another "tweener" Merchant Store token. Made between the time of Hard Times Tokens and Civil War Tokens. This token is larger than a modern quarter at ~28mm and made of brass. I found their advertisements in the 1847 Boston Alamac and 1848 Massachusetts State Record. The token is attributed as being made in ~1854.
This is another "tweener" Merchant Store token. Made between the time of Hard Times Tokens and Civil War Tokens. This token is larger than a modern quarter at ~28mm and made of brass. I found their advertisements in the 1847 Boston Alamac and 1848 Massachusetts State Record. The token is attributed as being made in ~1854.
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That is huge for a token and reminds me of one I sold a few years ago. I can't remember how large it was but it was thicker than a standard token.
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mhonzell wrote:......I found their advertisements in the 1847 Boston Alamanac....
Just curious if the old almanacs are hard to come by, because I got one (Boston- 1861 or 1862) at an estate sale about 3 years ago for 50C in a box lot. I never thought of using it to locate merchants mentioned on CWT. It makes for an interesting connection to the CWT tho.
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Daniel, that is an excellent token! Love those with Washington on them. Wishing I'd been there when you sold that one.
Cliff, I find these document through Google. Almost everything these days has been digitized making a search for a merchant a little easier. There are usually only one or two hits that lead to an old merchant unless something major occurred with them. As to having old documents on hand... I gather old British illustrated newspapers from the Civil War era, sometimes framing them. I have one with a hand drawn image of Lincoln sitting at the Ford Theater with John Wilkes Booth standing behind him. I also have a few bottles from the time when the merchants used to make their labels by embossing the glass instead of using paper.
Cliff, I find these document through Google. Almost everything these days has been digitized making a search for a merchant a little easier. There are usually only one or two hits that lead to an old merchant unless something major occurred with them. As to having old documents on hand... I gather old British illustrated newspapers from the Civil War era, sometimes framing them. I have one with a hand drawn image of Lincoln sitting at the Ford Theater with John Wilkes Booth standing behind him. I also have a few bottles from the time when the merchants used to make their labels by embossing the glass instead of using paper.
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NY630BA-2a : G.M. Michnatt's Eagle Safe
I get the impression from reading up on this one that he was a distributor and not a manufacturer. Most documents refer to this business as being around in the 1890's. But, according to the American Journal of Numismatics (pg. 87, published 1867) this was listed as Business Card #258. (Yes, they collected and categorized coins and tokens way back then. :-) Seems that Jacob A. Michnatt owned the store in 1898.
The Scovill Manufacturing Company of Waterbury, Connecticut produced this advertising token. The Scovill Company was established in 1802 as a button manufacturer and is still in business today. Scovill was an early industrial American innovator, adapting armory manufacturing processes to mass-produce a variety of consumer goods including buttons, daguerreotype mats, medals, coins, and tokens.
The top photo (obverse) shows a butcher's mincing blade on a chopping block. The bottom photo (reverse) shows an Eagle Safe on casters. The actual safe was about 3' tall (as a reference to the device's dimensions.) It may look a little dirty, but this token is in great shape.
I get the impression from reading up on this one that he was a distributor and not a manufacturer. Most documents refer to this business as being around in the 1890's. But, according to the American Journal of Numismatics (pg. 87, published 1867) this was listed as Business Card #258. (Yes, they collected and categorized coins and tokens way back then. :-) Seems that Jacob A. Michnatt owned the store in 1898.
The Scovill Manufacturing Company of Waterbury, Connecticut produced this advertising token. The Scovill Company was established in 1802 as a button manufacturer and is still in business today. Scovill was an early industrial American innovator, adapting armory manufacturing processes to mass-produce a variety of consumer goods including buttons, daguerreotype mats, medals, coins, and tokens.
The top photo (obverse) shows a butcher's mincing blade on a chopping block. The bottom photo (reverse) shows an Eagle Safe on casters. The actual safe was about 3' tall (as a reference to the device's dimensions.) It may look a little dirty, but this token is in great shape.
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NY630T-1a by L. Roloff
As usual, most of his tokens are about the size of a quarter.
This one is a bit morbid...
J.J. Diehl probably took a hand in the internment of some deceased New York soldiers during the Civil War. Bodies were often shipped home from battlefields and hospitals for formal family ceremonies in local churches and cathedrals, like Saint Patricks in Manhattan. Sometimes relatives or funeral agents went south to battlefields, bringing bodies home by train for a local burial!
Seems a little spooky to have an undertaker's "coins" circulating as "currency" during a deadly Civil War which was killing your dearest friends and relatives.
As usual, most of his tokens are about the size of a quarter.
This one is a bit morbid...
J.J. Diehl probably took a hand in the internment of some deceased New York soldiers during the Civil War. Bodies were often shipped home from battlefields and hospitals for formal family ceremonies in local churches and cathedrals, like Saint Patricks in Manhattan. Sometimes relatives or funeral agents went south to battlefields, bringing bodies home by train for a local burial!
Seems a little spooky to have an undertaker's "coins" circulating as "currency" during a deadly Civil War which was killing your dearest friends and relatives.
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Well, all I got for Christmas was a token with a rooster and some flowers. lol:
Have to say, my wife out did herself this year!
(The darker copper areas are remaining luster.)
NY630BH-2a
Emil Sigel
Have to say, my wife out did herself this year!
(The darker copper areas are remaining luster.)
NY630BH-2a
Emil Sigel
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Wow! She's a keeper for sure!! :thumbsup: and what a neat 90* (almost perfectly straight) die crack. (I don't think I've ever seen one at a 90* angle.)
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There is actually a third joining them, running towards 8 o'clock. A fourth at 10 o'clock only makes it to the wreath. Amazing that they can meet near the middle and the die still works. (Love the shattered dies. This one is close to being done.)
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The street was actually 39th street. But, the section of street near the harbor was filled with illegal slaughterhouses and garnered the name Abattoir Place. The animals had to be shipped in to Manhattan Island and the city could do nothing to remove these slaughter houses. Foul and rank with draining blood and boiling fat, these slaughter houses were built to provide food to the rapidly growing city of New York. They were illegal because the city would no longer sign permits for new slaughterhouses in an attempt to move them off the island. They rose up anyway in the 1830's and continued to operate into the late 1800s. 34th to 38th street were for beef slaughterhouses and actually had a tunnel built under New York City to allow the cattle to be moved from the southernmost docks up to this area.
The street was actually 39th street. But, the section of street near the harbor was filled with illegal slaughterhouses and garnered the name Abattoir Place. The animals had to be shipped in to Manhattan Island and the city could do nothing to remove these slaughter houses. Foul and rank with draining blood and boiling fat, these slaughter houses were built to provide food to the rapidly growing city of New York. They were illegal because the city would no longer sign permits for new slaughterhouses in an attempt to move them off the island. They rose up anyway in the 1830's and continued to operate into the late 1800s. 34th to 38th street were for beef slaughterhouses and actually had a tunnel built under New York City to allow the cattle to be moved from the southernmost docks up to this area.
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Re: Civil War Tokens
Always enjoy the history and images of these coins. This topic and thread has almost become a book, well done Mark!
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Re: Civil War Tokens
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Speaking of books...
How about the OH995-2a?
Yep, they were not all made in New York. Hailing from Zanesville, Ohio, this token was promoting the local stationery shop. Unlike today, people actually wrote things... by hand.
While several notable people were born and raised here, I specifically recall Zane Grey. My mother collected all his western books. I remember growing up with a bookshelf full of his books. And, yet, I haven't read a single one. I became a Sci-Fi buff (the modern day western.)
(Cliff, they are new acquisitions. Unfortunately, I'm now packed and ready to move to another state to start a new job. So, it may be awhile before the next one.)
Speaking of books...
How about the OH995-2a?
Yep, they were not all made in New York. Hailing from Zanesville, Ohio, this token was promoting the local stationery shop. Unlike today, people actually wrote things... by hand.
While several notable people were born and raised here, I specifically recall Zane Grey. My mother collected all his western books. I remember growing up with a bookshelf full of his books. And, yet, I haven't read a single one. I became a Sci-Fi buff (the modern day western.)
(Cliff, they are new acquisitions. Unfortunately, I'm now packed and ready to move to another state to start a new job. So, it may be awhile before the next one.)
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Re: Civil War Tokens
Best of wishes. I can tell you this, they'll be lucky to have you around. You seem to add a lot of input to any group you associate with!! "We'll keep the light on for ya here!" widegrin
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