Maybe a counterfit Morgan?

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Maybe a counterfit Morgan?

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I just purchased at an auction a few morgans and this included an 1884 CC morgan. It was in a cardboard and plastic holder. So as I was examining the coin I began to notice several discrepancies. For one I weighed the coin and it is 25.1g. The photo of this coin was a little bit out of crisp focus and initially it looked good. So I bid on it and got it. I thought a reasonable price if the coin was a MS62 or even MS60. So Then examining this closer I noticed two small round bumps one in front of the forehead and another equal sized at the lower portion of the E in E * PLURIBUS The wear patterns on the coin are not right to me also. The reverse has pitting on the right of the eagle and on the right wing and a lot of details are more worn than normal. The surfaces seem to have been bead blasted or something like this.

So I am asking all of you guys to chime in and let me know if this is a fake.

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100% counterfeit, get your money back as soon as you can.

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#3 Unread post by Soaru678 »

Thank You Daniel. I will let you guys know.

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#4 Unread post by Earle42 »

Ditto - terrible fake.
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#5 Unread post by Soaru678 »

The auction company contacted me today and they are willing to work things out. BTW it was not a ebay auction.

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#6 Unread post by JTCC »

Soaru678 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:16 pm The auction company contacted me today and they are willing to work things out. BTW it was not a ebay auction.
sounds great! hope you get your money back!
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Soaru678 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:16 pm The auction company contacted me today and they are willing to work things out. BTW it was not a ebay auction.
Hey S, man I hope it works out for you. The coin industry has kind of always had its frauds and fraudsters, even in the Gold rush days there was Iron Pyrite. I have even known of some unscrupulous coin club members that sold wizzed coins (no not that kind of Wizz) to youngsters who were also members of the club. Now how bout that Bernie Madoff 😜 I wish you well.
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#8 Unread post by HallMarkedStack »

Darn man, I’m sorry but after looking at your 1884 CC photos, everything on it looks wrong.
The CC mint mark is off
The date numbers are off
It doesn’t look right. Hopefully your able to get your funds back.

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#9 Unread post by Soaru678 »

Well, I got lucky. The auction house is going to refund all of what I spent on this coin. Lesson learned on this one. Not saying I wiil not make more mistakes but maybe fewer and less expensive.

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#10 Unread post by finalfantasy »

unbelievable the amount of fakes out there.

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