Greek coin ID part 1

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Greek coin ID part 1

#1 Unread post by RomanGreekCoins » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:26 am

Greek Coin needs an ID. no clue on what era

I bought it as part of a lot, without any ID.. they were cheap so i doubt its worth much. of course its worn big time.

17mm

weight 4.19 grams

looks like an eagle on reverse facing left

brass/bronze
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Re: Greek coin ID part 1

#2 Unread post by mhonzell » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:02 pm

What do you think this is?

I can only see the coin from one angle and the surface creates illusions.
Which style of eagle do you see? Notice both have the strong body and split heavy legs. I think the head is pointed left. (Both of these are unusual for a 17mm Greek coin.)
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Re: Greek coin ID part 1

#3 Unread post by RomanGreekCoins » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:53 pm

facing left, with wing open on the right side
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Re: Greek coin ID part 1

#4 Unread post by RomanGreekCoins » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:55 pm

here
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Re: Greek coin ID part 1

#5 Unread post by RomanGreekCoins » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:48 pm

I just found out what is is.

ptolemy VI regent for cleopatra I

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Re: Greek coin ID part 1

#6 Unread post by mhonzell » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:18 pm

Good job!

I pulled up Cleopatra several times, but I just couldn't make out the detail to call it. And, what I was finding was too big and heavier.
I also could not address the area behind Cleopatra's neck.

There is also controversy behind Cleopatra coins:
"The largely baseless claims that underlie the reattribution of these fairly common bronze coins may tend to make readers suspicious that they have been made not so much as a result of questionable scholarship but as part of a marketing ploy. This feeling is perhaps strengthened by the large numbers of Svoronos 1160-1161 attributed to Cleopatra that are available for purchase on the author's website. It probably does not need pointing out that the historical interest of a coin associated with Cleopatra VII makes it much more valuable on the market than one of the comparatively obscure Arsinoe III. Still, one must not hastily rush to judgment. Although the treatment of Ptolemaic Cyprus and the new identifications of certain coins as issues of Cleopatra VII are problematic to say the least, this disturbance of longstanding Hellenistic coin attributions is relatively minor in comparison with the riot of reattribution that follows in the discussion of Cyprus under the Romans. As many of these coins are already valued by collectors in their own right, and reattribution to Cyprus is not likely to enhance that value, it may be that the new attributions to Cleopatra are actually the work of a true believer."

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