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199? LMC

#1 Unread post by Tooboocoo » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:25 pm

Can anyone help explain how and where this might have happened and is it possibly a 1992 clam
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Re: 199? LMC

#2 Unread post by Daniel » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:05 pm

It is definitely post mint damage caused by mechanical means. A clam shell is caused form impurities and it causes a thin layer of metal to separate from the rest of the coin.

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Re: 199? LMC

#3 Unread post by Tooboocoo » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:13 pm

I meant close am sorry for the confusion thanks

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Re: 199? LMC

#4 Unread post by Tooboocoo » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:26 pm

Why do I see letters printed all over that dont belong there, like right below the date running right through the mintmark on top of what I thought might have been a defective planchet or possibly a shatters die which I think say liberty thanks

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Re: 199? LMC

#5 Unread post by PALH1 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:35 pm

Daniel wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:05 pm
It is definitely post mint damage caused by mechanical means. A clam shell is caused form impurities and it causes a thin layer of metal to separate from the rest of the coin.
:agree: , no 'CLAM' here,
....this is "PMD"........

i hugeeyes a "SKID" penny

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Re: 199? LMC

#6 Unread post by PetesPockets55 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:33 pm

Tooboocoo wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:26 pm
Why do I see letters printed all over that dont belong there, like right below the date running right through the mintmark on top of what I thought might have been a defective planchet or possibly a shatters die which I think say liberty thanks
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Pareidolia is a type of apophenia, which is a more generalized term for seeing patterns in random data. Some common examples are seeing a likeness of Jesus in the clouds or an image of a man on the surface of the moon.

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Re: 199? LMC

#7 Unread post by PALH1 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:10 am

PetesPockets55 wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:33 pm
Tooboocoo wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:26 pm
Why do I see letters printed all over that dont belong there, like right below the date running right through the mintmark on top of what I thought might have been a defective planchet or possibly a shatters die which I think say liberty thanks
From Merriam Websters
Pareidolia is a type of apophenia, which is a more generalized term for seeing patterns in random data. Some common examples are seeing a likeness of Jesus in the clouds or an image of a man on the surface of the moon.
:agree:

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Re: 199? LMC

#8 Unread post by Tooboocoo » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:00 am

Ok everyone ID like you all to look closer,if you blow up the image of the obverse and look to the right and just above the date ,on the rim ,can somebody explain to me why it looks more like a die blew apart more than it dose"a skid coin" I've seen many of ran over coins ,another thing I'd like you to look at is the back of Lincoln's head ,if you ask me the back of his head appears to be all the way to the edge repeating it self and there appears to be other writing on top of the damaged portion I'm not seeing a pareidolia or anything and if this were a skid coin why is the other half of the obverse OK and there's no obvious evidence of this coin being exposed to traffic for any period of time and if it was a skid coin someone got really lucky,talk about stopping on a dime ,ran it over once managed to rip or shatter the planchet on only half the coin and then get out and collect it and call it a day there has to be someone out there willing to open their minds of the possibilities of there being UN found mint errors and oddities I think you're looking at one with no explanation thanks again tooboocoo

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Re: 199? LMC

#9 Unread post by Daniel » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:51 am

It is impossible this happened at the mint, all the damaged happened after the coin is struck. When you learn the minting process and study mint errors for all the years I have you will realize what is possible and what is not. A shattered die looks nothing like this and a shattered die can not produce what you're seeing.

The coin is a perfect examples of a post mint damaged cent.

Any missing part of the die is filled in with planchet metal and is raised; not dug into the surface. A damaged planchet shows certain patterns consistent with the tools and equipment used at the mint and can't be damaged by anything else. Furthermore such damage will show evidence that it was struck by the design.

You must understand that coins are going in and leaving the die chamber in split seconds and when one gets stuck then more come in and get struck together. It's not like one coin sits there getting hammered and smashed over and over again.

You have to open your mind to the actual minting process and look past your coins.
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