Roman Republic Denarius authenticity check
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Roman Republic Denarius authenticity check
I am curious about this coin i have
16- 17mm
3.96 grams
i bought this Roman republic anonymous coin last year
When i had it in my hand it looked authentic to me
but i want to confirm because the pouch worries me now and i am curious- are those casting lines on the side?
the same type pouch with black and red pen lettering i bid on a similar roman coin on ebay just recently
this ebay seller items all had private bidders( possible for shill bidding to raise the price) i was recently told that all of the coins in this seller below are fakes. so i am worried about the coin i bought last year now.
this is the current seller in question
https://www.ebay.com/usr/outofeurope?_t ... 7675.l2559
this is the current coin that worried me from the bidding.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROMAN-REPUPUBL ... 3919949902
ty for any help you could give me
16- 17mm
3.96 grams
i bought this Roman republic anonymous coin last year
When i had it in my hand it looked authentic to me
but i want to confirm because the pouch worries me now and i am curious- are those casting lines on the side?
the same type pouch with black and red pen lettering i bid on a similar roman coin on ebay just recently
this ebay seller items all had private bidders( possible for shill bidding to raise the price) i was recently told that all of the coins in this seller below are fakes. so i am worried about the coin i bought last year now.
this is the current seller in question
https://www.ebay.com/usr/outofeurope?_t ... 7675.l2559
this is the current coin that worried me from the bidding.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROMAN-REPUPUBL ... 3919949902
ty for any help you could give me
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Re: Roman Republic Denarius authenticity check
These are three examples I am looking at for consistency in how the devices were engraved.
Biggest thing that stands out are the number of spokes in the chariot wheel. Yours: 7, these: 6. But, you can see that there are variations to even these three. The edge does look a bit odd. Can you provide another photo of the edge where I circled below: As to the seller and the pouch: I agree that whoever made up the label for the pouch is the same person who made your pouch.
Are his coins fake? I don't think so.
His photos have the look of an attempt to sharpen a blurry photo resulting in a grainy look when magnified.
Some of his coins may be repatinated. (Cleaned too far and then toned artificially.)
Edge cracks are very difficult to duplicate by cast or strike.
Biggest thing that stands out are the number of spokes in the chariot wheel. Yours: 7, these: 6. But, you can see that there are variations to even these three. The edge does look a bit odd. Can you provide another photo of the edge where I circled below: As to the seller and the pouch: I agree that whoever made up the label for the pouch is the same person who made your pouch.
Are his coins fake? I don't think so.
His photos have the look of an attempt to sharpen a blurry photo resulting in a grainy look when magnified.
Some of his coins may be repatinated. (Cleaned too far and then toned artificially.)
Edge cracks are very difficult to duplicate by cast or strike.
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Re: Roman Republic Denarius authenticity check
I think the edge has been smoothed. That crack doesn't appear to go to the top or bottom of the coin.
I'm going to have to go with copy on this one.
I'm going to have to go with copy on this one.
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Re: Roman Republic Denarius authenticity check
do you agree that those private bidders sound a little fishy as well? even if these coins all turn out to be genuine, maybe hes raising the bidding price to get more$$ out of real buyers?
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Re: Roman Republic Denarius authenticity check
when you say copy do you mean that you believe it is stills silver? does the weight sound okay?
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Re: Roman Republic Denarius authenticity check
It is on the heavy end.
The three coins I compared with: 3.46g, 3.60g, 3.78g
Is it silver? No way for me to determine that.
The three coins I compared with: 3.46g, 3.60g, 3.78g
Is it silver? No way for me to determine that.
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Re: Roman Republic Denarius authenticity check
i noticed some cracks on the reverse face , could a copy have these?
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Re: Roman Republic Denarius authenticity check
i just looked at my coin again. it has EIGHT spokes in the wheel.( it didnt show up in the photo i sent )
Is that normal?
Is that normal?
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Re: Roman Republic Denarius authenticity check
At the time, I gave you a photo of everything I found. I've found two more since then.
They all have six spokes.
Your Victory looks to be wielding a hammer. I believe you see cracks.
All the other examples are using a whip.
Cracks are difficult to duplicate, but on the edge, they would be sharp and pass through an obverse or reverse edge. Your edge has been smoothed making it appears as a hole on the edge.
I've already declared based on my observations.
I don't know what else you want me to tell you.
They all have six spokes.
Your Victory looks to be wielding a hammer. I believe you see cracks.
All the other examples are using a whip.
Cracks are difficult to duplicate, but on the edge, they would be sharp and pass through an obverse or reverse edge. Your edge has been smoothed making it appears as a hole on the edge.
I've already declared based on my observations.
I don't know what else you want me to tell you.
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Re: Roman Republic Denarius authenticity check
No i hear what you are saying... i was simply curious why they would go to all the trouble to make a copy yet add 2 spokes. when you say copy, wouldnt they just try to duplicate the exactly how the original was?
how do they copy a coin like you suggest this is? do they need the original to do it? if thats so, why the 2 added spokes if most are 6?
how do they copy a coin like you suggest this is? do they need the original to do it? if thats so, why the 2 added spokes if most are 6?
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Re: Roman Republic Denarius authenticity check
It can be explained and compared and doubted over and over, but to keep the hobby fun it is best to "when in doubt do without".
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