Germanicus or Caligula?

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Germanicus or Caligula?

#1 Unread post by RomanGreekCoins » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:57 pm

Recent acquisition.
I am having trouble Iding the reverse
5.8 grams

The obverse looks like Caligula but the seller said it was Germanicus
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Re: Germanicus or Caligula?

#2 Unread post by mhonzell » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:50 pm

ΓΕΡΜΑΝΙΚΟΣ (Germaikos)
It is hard to refute the Greek lettering on the coin.

What I find for Caligula is written in Latin: GERMANICVS, with exception to this one:
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I think the reverse is a stag (deer). A similar coin (not the same) would be RPC I 3134 making this a Provincial Coin.
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Re: Germanicus or Caligula?

#3 Unread post by RomanGreekCoins » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:49 pm

I see. So if this is genuine is must be very rare becuase I cant even find it on wildwinds or vcoins.

Is that what it means by unlisted?

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Re: Germanicus or Caligula?

#4 Unread post by mhonzell » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:13 pm

Unlisted means no one else has publicly cataloged this coin.

If you found a reference that positively indicates it was made at a particular mint for a particular ruler, then a museum would pay nicely to show this and it would get cataloged. Without it being cataloged, rarity has no meaning as you cannot provide proof that it is one of ten known, or one of five million made, just undiscovered, so far.

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Re: Germanicus or Caligula?

#5 Unread post by RomanGreekCoins » Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:56 am

Wow. also means its highly unlikely this could be a forgery right?

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Re: Germanicus or Caligula?

#6 Unread post by mhonzell » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:38 am

It is not likely a forgery, unless an ancient forgery.

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Re: Germanicus or Caligula?

#7 Unread post by RomanGreekCoins » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:56 pm

could it be Caligula instead of germanicus?
the obverse is pretty close to this one
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Re: Germanicus or Caligula?

#8 Unread post by PetesPockets55 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:22 am

On the OP's coin does the pointed Chin (beard?) play any significance in the ID?

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Re: Germanicus or Caligula?

#9 Unread post by mhonzell » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:47 am

Possibly the pointy chin would help if we could find the actual coin. For me, the style of lettering is most significant.

I still don't think it's Caligula. (Especially not a radiated bust.)

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Re: Germanicus or Caligula?

#10 Unread post by RomanGreekCoins » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:58 pm

Then i guess it must be germanicus beacuse nobody comes close. I guess the seller was right

Do you agree that the quality looks a liitle too good for a Spanish Imitation ?

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