COMPUGRADE Sample and Production Slabs
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COMPUGRADE Sample and Production Slabs
Thought I would get these on here for my next thread.
I picked these up a while ago and I really like how they are put together. stack and are compacted.
The slabs are very sturdy and seem to be well built and small, 1 7/8" wide by 2 5/8" high and 3/8" thick.
Not sure if the grading going to this level of grading could ever be popular but leave it to a computer to try and get it this accurate.
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I picked these up a while ago and I really like how they are put together. stack and are compacted.
The slabs are very sturdy and seem to be well built and small, 1 7/8" wide by 2 5/8" high and 3/8" thick.
Not sure if the grading going to this level of grading could ever be popular but leave it to a computer to try and get it this accurate.
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I find it interesting to see how the labels change/improve over time. My mind starts to wander towards trying to "see" what may have prompted the change. More pleasing color, better graphics or font, holder dimensions, etc.
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A computer would grade a coin the same way 10 times out of 10, a human would not; and if the TPGS were smart they would already be developing this software. All they need to do is have their graders grade then let the computer scan, use a little AI, and eventually they will teach a computer to grade. So when someone sends in a cracked out coin then it could be recognized down to the molecular configuration of the top layer.
It will eventually happen, but not sure it will be a company like PCGS.
It will eventually happen, but not sure it will be a company like PCGS.
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Your right Daniel.
The computer could scan it, grade it, and a person would have to enter the 'Eye Appeal'
PCGS has been trying to get something like that done, don't know how far they went with the program. I think that is what the 'Secure Plus" program does.
The computer could scan it, grade it, and a person would have to enter the 'Eye Appeal'
PCGS has been trying to get something like that done, don't know how far they went with the program. I think that is what the 'Secure Plus" program does.
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PCGS claims actual grading by a computer can't be done, but I beg to differ. A computer can be taught anything, even eye appeal, which is a very tiny metric in grading anyway. A computer can learn what is pretty based on several redefined metrics. The things is, once a computer learns the variances for the MS67 grade then every single coin that matches will get the grade. Currently we don't have that consistency in human grading.
I don't think they want it. I think they bank on human error to help keep pops down and their values up. Although they do allow enough that some values have decreased, but some have increased as well, NGC had a fun time pointing out the rare drops in the last 10 years.
I don't think they want it. I think they bank on human error to help keep pops down and their values up. Although they do allow enough that some values have decreased, but some have increased as well, NGC had a fun time pointing out the rare drops in the last 10 years.
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My 1901-O MS-62.1, these are the only three slabs I have ever seen by them.
With this grade does this mean that a MS-62.2, 62.3 and so on for all the tenths could possibly exist? And from MS-60 to 70?
What do you think?
Thanks,
With this grade does this mean that a MS-62.2, 62.3 and so on for all the tenths could possibly exist? And from MS-60 to 70?
What do you think?
Thanks,
Bob
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Here is the link to my thread on this topic.
COMPUGRADE Thread
This is for the Patent that Compugrade had.
Patent
Machine assisted visual grading of rare collectibles over the Internet
Just amazing stuff these guys find!
COMPUGRADE Thread
This is for the Patent that Compugrade had.
Patent
Machine assisted visual grading of rare collectibles over the Internet
Just amazing stuff these guys find!
Bob
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It will take a new company to attempt this computer grading or to additionally authenticate a grade (think CAC Secure) using machines or algorithms.
Because of the liability to existing companies reputations/business models and existing inventory the current companies will fight it tooth and nail.
(Existing TPG's might even resort to Twitter to mock them and call them "Really Bad Hombres" for sympathy)
Because of the liability to existing companies reputations/business models and existing inventory the current companies will fight it tooth and nail.
(Existing TPG's might even resort to Twitter to mock them and call them "Really Bad Hombres" for sympathy)
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It cost too much money to do. It would be worth it in the long run but the up front money is pricey. I have talked to several companies on this matter.
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