1825 Farthing
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1825 Farthing
No, I didn't fall off the coin cart... I've been tied up with work.
So, let me take a moment to share one of my coin's with you:
In Britain, the production of copper coins had been halted between 1816 and 1821. Britain's Great Recoinage of 1816 ended under the rule of King George IV when, Benedetto Pistrucci was hired to design and mint a new coin depicting King George IV. Unfortunately, Pistrucci produced a spectacularly ugly portrait of the king, with a bulging face and neck. The king was rather displeased. Pistrucci was demoted, and William Wyon was given the task of producing a more slim and trim farthing.
So, we have two types of King George IV farthings:
Dated 1821-1826, it weighed 4.5–4.8 grams, with a diameter of 22 millimetres.
Dated 1826–1830 it weighed 4.6–4.9 grams with a diameter of 22 millimetres.
In 1826, both Pistrucci's and Wyon's designs were produced.
The Pistrucci obverse shows a left-facing bust of King George IV with the inscription GEORGIUS IIII DEI GRATIA (George the IV by God's grace), while the reverse shows a right-facing helmeted Britannia seated to the left of the coin, with a shield and trident, with the inscription BRITANNIAE REX FID DEF (short for "BRITANNIARUM REX FIDEI DEFENSOR", King of the British Empire, Defender of the Faith) and the date in the exergue underneath Britannia.
Wyon's preference was to put the date under the king's bust, and to put the rose, thistle, and shamrock in the exergue underneath Britannia.
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This coin has so much luster, it is hard to photograph without overexposing areas. It is also very toned with purple hues in the fields.
The 1825 is distinguished with raised stems through the leaves on ol' George's laurel. (All others have incuse stems.) And, the date is normally an RPD. Different varieties have the '5' in different positions.
So, let me take a moment to share one of my coin's with you:
In Britain, the production of copper coins had been halted between 1816 and 1821. Britain's Great Recoinage of 1816 ended under the rule of King George IV when, Benedetto Pistrucci was hired to design and mint a new coin depicting King George IV. Unfortunately, Pistrucci produced a spectacularly ugly portrait of the king, with a bulging face and neck. The king was rather displeased. Pistrucci was demoted, and William Wyon was given the task of producing a more slim and trim farthing.
So, we have two types of King George IV farthings:
Dated 1821-1826, it weighed 4.5–4.8 grams, with a diameter of 22 millimetres.
Dated 1826–1830 it weighed 4.6–4.9 grams with a diameter of 22 millimetres.
In 1826, both Pistrucci's and Wyon's designs were produced.
The Pistrucci obverse shows a left-facing bust of King George IV with the inscription GEORGIUS IIII DEI GRATIA (George the IV by God's grace), while the reverse shows a right-facing helmeted Britannia seated to the left of the coin, with a shield and trident, with the inscription BRITANNIAE REX FID DEF (short for "BRITANNIARUM REX FIDEI DEFENSOR", King of the British Empire, Defender of the Faith) and the date in the exergue underneath Britannia.
Wyon's preference was to put the date under the king's bust, and to put the rose, thistle, and shamrock in the exergue underneath Britannia.
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This coin has so much luster, it is hard to photograph without overexposing areas. It is also very toned with purple hues in the fields.
The 1825 is distinguished with raised stems through the leaves on ol' George's laurel. (All others have incuse stems.) And, the date is normally an RPD. Different varieties have the '5' in different positions.
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Re: 1825 Farthing
Take a close look at the four 'I's representing George IV. I see doubling in the last two 'I's. In the last 'I', the secondary 'I' is quite a bit off.
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Re: 1825 Farthing
I can see on the last two digits were they tried to repunch. It's amaseing how far off they were on the last two ones when they were punched!!
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Re: 1825 Farthing
Welcome back and I thoroughly enjoy your detailed descriptions. If I'm seeing it correctly, on the last "I" it hugeeyes looks like the secondary image is well below the primary one. And the top of the third "I" almost looks to have two notches (tripled?)mhonzell wrote:Take a close look at the four 'I's representing George IV. I see doubling in the last two 'I's. In the last 'I', the secondary 'I' is quite a bit off.
Mark, Did you discover these before or after you acquired it? Fantastic shape for 191 years old!
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Re: 1825 Farthing
Discovered these after I acquired it. In fact, after I posted the first pictures above, I was trying to fix how dark the images were and thought I saw more. I knew that the '5' should be an RPD, but everything else was a find under the scope. Amazing what happens when you look at your coins a second time.
I'm agreeing with CopperFinger on this one... the date of manufacture makes the "doubling" more likely a repunch to the die and they didn't do so well on the alignment.
I'm agreeing with CopperFinger on this one... the date of manufacture makes the "doubling" more likely a repunch to the die and they didn't do so well on the alignment.
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Re: 1825 Farthing
So, a trivia question for you...
Was this coin struck at the Tower of London, or at Little Tower Hill?
Was this coin struck at the Tower of London, or at Little Tower Hill?
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I see it now, but I don't know the answer off the top of my head on where it was minted.
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Re: 1825 Farthing
i see it m......nicemhonzell wrote:Take a close look at the four 'I's representing George IV. I see doubling in the last two 'I's. In the last 'I', the secondary 'I' is quite a bit off.
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I see it,M, a beauty. Judging from the strength of strike, I would bet on the presses at little tower hill. I probably am wrong, but that is what I think!
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Would love to see these articles in the World Coin section of the website! widegrin
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Daniel...
Posted in World Coins blog.
On a side note, this post just put me on the short list of "top posters".
Posted in World Coins blog.
On a side note, this post just put me on the short list of "top posters".
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Congrats! And thanks, You've shared a lot with all of us.mhonzell wrote:Daniel...
Posted in World Coins blog.
On a side note, this post just put me on the short list of "top posters".
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