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Coin Collecting Databases
At the beginning of the year, I found this freeware program. It seems to be pretty good once you learn all its eccentricities.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/open-numismat/
Anyone else use it? Can you compare it to the commercial databases out there?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/open-numismat/
Anyone else use it? Can you compare it to the commercial databases out there?
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FYI: I went to the link you provided, but It looks like it has not been modified since 2014, so it may not be that current. I did not see any reviews, so I could not tell you much about it. I would also caution when downloading open source software you do not know if someone with ill intent has inserted any malicious code within the software package that you are downloading, so make sure you run the software through a virus scan just as a precaution. I am glad you found something that works for you. Happy Collecting!
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Good advice RVA. I have a program that is coming out soon. Official release will be announced on my Youtube channel in the next few weeks.
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Re: Coin Collecting Databases
Oh wow.
What sort of features does it have?
And how much will it cost?
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" Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration"....Abraham Lincoln, State of the Union Address, December 3, 1861
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I have been using Excel for a database to keep track
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I'm old. I use a notebook until my wife can do a spreadsheet for can not type . lol
There is a software you can buy online I but don't think Daniel will want me posting it . Email me if interested. I might buy it myself.I had one similar and it was easy and fun acually .
There is a software you can buy online I but don't think Daniel will want me posting it . Email me if interested. I might buy it myself.I had one similar and it was easy and fun acually .
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I started out making one like that years ago, but they get too unwieldly and are too hard to update.
Plus you cant add photos to it
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oh please.. it isnt like black hats cant hack into anything nowadays.RVA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:05 am I would also caution when downloading open source software you do not know if someone with ill intent has inserted any malicious code within the software package that you are downloading, so make sure you run the software through a virus scan just as a precaution. I am glad you found something that works for you. Happy Collecting!
And Bill Barr's boys are probably aiding abetting them
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yeah I can see that; Right now I do not want an online only database, just something local on system, and since my collection isn't that big it works, later on I might have to change to something else
1. issue is with the database is online, what happens when they stop the service? you no longer have your database
2. if internet goes out then can't access database
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I kinda figured that....even though your profile claims you're three years younger than me...
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What's the cloud ? Coins Coins stay on topic. FYI I downloaded a trial of a program for cataloging coins , I'll let you all know how it work out .
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In due time and it's not going to be much longer either. Here's a sneak peak before I announce the official launch https://mintstate.com/Website/Home.aspx
It has a grading feature that will be coming soon that uses AI to grade coins, but funding is the issue. I am not rich and this stuff takes money.
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It's advanced for certain and the grading app will follow in the future. More features will as well. We're not charging for the coin collector feature but you must have an account. However, we're not selling your information, all is confidential.
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Daniel, I'm interested in this New program you have coming out .I saw the Website and was quite impressed ! Keep me updated, Thanks
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Re: Coin Collecting Databases
thanks for sharing. Many people like hunting coins with electronic sensors.That won't be ina very good shape. but it's fun to do.
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So...not only will it catalog all your coins, it will have AI that grades them??!!!!
WOW!!
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In the future. We beta tested for a year and it will grade Morgans so far. We just need more funding. So we released this version to help gain revenue.
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Well...I see the data base isn't up yet, but that coin identifier program looks pretty neat.
I did get it to identify the Merc I posted today, but not my 1890CC.
And it said my avatar pic didn't meet its 'minimum resolution ' requirements, so I think you still have a few bugs in the system
I did get it to identify the Merc I posted today, but not my 1890CC.
And it said my avatar pic didn't meet its 'minimum resolution ' requirements, so I think you still have a few bugs in the system
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I'll take pics of my 20th Century Type, run them through the thingymigigge, and send you my results and comments, Daniel.
Hopefully it won't become sentient and attack the Staships Hood, Potemkin, Exeter, and....Lexington? What was Richard Daystrom thinking??!!
Hopefully it won't become sentient and attack the Staships Hood, Potemkin, Exeter, and....Lexington? What was Richard Daystrom thinking??!!
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I just had to make a meme...
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If your images are anything like the ones you post in this forum then you're going to have problems. It's not bugs in the program. I have trouble seeing the details of most coins you post so a program is going to have even more trouble. You need a better camera and not hold it with your hands.Kris W wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:47 pm Well...I see the data base isn't up yet, but that coin identifier program looks pretty neat.
I did get it to identify the Merc I posted today, but not my 1890CC.
And it said my avatar pic didn't meet its 'minimum resolution ' requirements, so I think you still have a few bugs in the system
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I'm using a Canon EoS T7i on a tripod
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Well, I put 25 different coins through the Mint State CIA and sent the results to them and Daniel. It only correctly identified three of them, and misidentified several.
And that seems to be who the app is marketed toward.
IMHO, the pics I provided are of better quality than those of a numismatic neophyte with a cell phone. And that seems to be who the app is marketed toward.
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That is the funniest coin meme I have seen, thanks!!
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You did it wrong as specified in my email. You're images are out of focus and you used the browser button to go back which resulted in the misidentified coins.Kris W wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:53 pm Well, I put 25 different coins through the Mint State CIA and sent the results to them and Daniel. It only correctly identified three of them, and misidentified several.
mccoy002_kindlephoto-390572874.jpg
IMHO, the pics I provided are of better quality than those of a numismatic neophyte with a cell phone.
And that seems to be who the app is marketed toward.
I've uploaded hundreds of images of coins and no issues and all coins were identified properly. 12 months of work is in this program and it's a great program.
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Fantastic! The first major step in making the professional grading systems have to become accountable with repeatable results.
The AI grading will be a major 21st century improvement on the 20th century scientific tech that was abandoned in favor of making grading an "art."
Methinks the Beanie Babies affect might visit aspects of the hobby in the future when assigned grades/labels will be forced to be held accountable to a verifiable standard.
The AI grading will be a major 21st century improvement on the 20th century scientific tech that was abandoned in favor of making grading an "art."
Methinks the Beanie Babies affect might visit aspects of the hobby in the future when assigned grades/labels will be forced to be held accountable to a verifiable standard.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
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Fell free to try the program out yourself. We have a tutorial and you do need images that are in focus, just like you do on this forum when you need help with a coin. I will be creating video tutorials soon.
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