2003D Jefferson nickel Mint Error?

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Re: 2003D Jefferson nickel Mint Error?

#11 Unread post by PetesPockets55 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:07 pm

Hi Tooboocoo. Bear with me as I"m trying to understand your questions.
First let me say I can't see Jeffersons face in these images once (let alone multiple times) or if the devices you are mentioning are raised or recessed. All I can tell is that the second impression on the reverse has STATES in reverse. As far as the building goes, the right side is almost a mirror image of the left side so how can we tell if it is orientated properly or reversed?
What I am going to suggest may sound odd but try taking two or three nickels and try to simulate this coin by hitting it with a sledge hammer on an anvil or ball hitch on a truck. (I use mine to straighten bent metal from time to time).
I am a rank amateur compared to Daniel and Pahl1. They know their coins, mint procedures and possibilities.
I do look forward to your other coins. Cliff
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Re: 2003D Jefferson nickel Mint Error?

#12 Unread post by Daniel » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:46 pm

I didn't mention a vice, but a hammer and another coin. Two dies hitting this coin would not allow it to be wavy or raised, the space would be even tighter than in between a vice. This coin was worked on outside the mint and is most certainly damaged if that is still in question.

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Re: 2003D Jefferson nickel Mint Error?

#13 Unread post by Tooboocoo » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:14 am

Im still trying to figure out how ,if I hammers two coins together ,would I wind up with the same image such as Monticello imprinted the same direction,the same side of the coin plus the opposite side as well both forwards and backwards I know seems impossible and I almost agree I would be more than willing to ship it to somebody to investigate,but I'm still having trouble with the hammer and another coin ,and Jefferson if you sit the coin like it belongs with the date to the right if you follow the outline where Jefferson should be you will see if you make the image big enough you will see that he appears to show numerous times it is tough to see but I swear it's there ,

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Re: 2003D Jefferson nickel Mint Error?

#14 Unread post by Tooboocoo » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:14 am

And again thank you for your input

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Re: 2003D Jefferson nickel Mint Error?

#15 Unread post by PetesPockets55 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:33 am

Tooboocoo wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:14 am
......... how ........... would I wind up with the same image such as Monticello imprinted the same direction,the same side of the coin plus the opposite side as well both forwards and backwards ..........
A person just takes two coins (3? 4?), places them together and hammers away. One coin falls out. Put them together again and hammer away. Coin falls out, put them together again, ad infinitum. I will say the side with Jeffersons bust was on the outside which took most of the force of the blows against the stationary surface or hammer and is probably why it has the most damage.
Daniel and PAHL1 have been collecting and studying coins and the US minting techniques used to produce coins for 30 years or more. They do know what is a possible mint error and what is intentional damage or mischief (by whoever owned the coin before you). Pahl1 also has an additional advantage of having worked with industrial metal fabrication working in design and production I believe. The depth of knowledge they bring to this hobby and share with the rest of us is astounding. They are much more selective with their questions than myself because it helps them narrow down a possible answer.
Unfortunately most of the time that answer is: damage, either accidental or intentional.
Thank you for your posts and please include images of the front and reverse to help us.

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