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Please Help me identity this Error it is not post strike

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:30 pm
by bomber7777
PIc is not greatest but this is not post strike, this has to be broadstrike error I think, I have seen some broadstrikes that look similar, looking for someone to help and tell me how rare this error is.....

Re: Please Help me identity this Error it is not post strike

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:12 pm
by Daniel
Welcome to the forum!

This isn't a broad strike since a broad strike would be larger in diameter than a normal coin, since a broad strike is the result of a coin being struck without or only with part of the collar die that helps retain it's diameter during the strike.

I see the edge of the coin appears to be folded over and this shows the coin's rim was pounded. It looks like someone beginning attempt at creating a coin ring, or used as a door knocker, or it was stuck in a dryer for a while.

I know that's not the answer you wanted to hear but this coin is damaged. Nothing during the minting process would do this to a coin.

I am not sure what broad strike examples you were comparing this coin to but it sounds like ebay auctions, and most of those sellers don't know mint errors but are real good at a fast buck.

Here's some certified and authentic broad strikes to compare to http://coins.ha.com/c/search-results.zx ... roadstrike

Re: Please Help me identity this Error it is not post strike

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:30 pm
by bomber7777
this is not a damaged coin or a ring coin, looke, the folded over part of the coin writing is on the folded over part, when this coin was struck the writing carried over on the folded over part of the coin, this coin looks exactly like the example on this forum of a broad strike with indent, look at the back of the jeff nickel they use in the example, it is the same as this coin, exactly...

Re: Please Help me identity this Error it is not post strike

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:34 pm
by bomber7777
go to top of the page and click mint errors, go to broad strikes, look at the example of the 1999 nickel, the back of that nickel looks exactly the same as the front of my nickel

Re: Please Help me identity this Error it is not post strike

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:36 pm
by bomber7777
I know I am being difficult, if I could get you a better pic, if you saw the writing on the coin, you could tell this coin was struck like this at the mint...

Re: Please Help me identity this Error it is not post strike

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:51 pm
by bomber7777
Lot 6548 on the broadstrike error list you sent, it is called huge broadstrike error with missing lettering...............this is the same as my coin, have I hit the jackpot?

Re: Please Help me identity this Error it is not post strike

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:21 am
by Daniel
It's not the same, lot 6548 is a Presidential Dollar and it's missing the edge lettering and is not the same as your coin. Your coin has a metal lip that's been folded and this is not a broad strike.

You have to look at what it can't be before you can understand what it is.

A broad strike is a coin struck by the hammer and the anvil dies (front and back) but the retaining collar did not engage the rim, so the dies forced the planchet to spread out. You coin does not display these characteristics.

Even if it was a broad strike it's not a jackpot coin, it would not be worth that much money even if it was certified. It's just not a big money error.

I am sorry to tell you this but it's the truth.

Re: Please Help me identity this Error it is not post strike

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:41 am
by PetesPockets55
Daniel wrote:It's not the same, lot 6548 is a Presidential Dollar and it's missing the edge lettering and is not the same as your coin. Your coin has a metal lip that's been folded and this is not a broad strike.

You have to look at what it can't be before you can understand what it is.

A broad strike is a coin struck by the hammer and the anvil dies (front and back) but the retaining collar did not engage the rim, so the dies forced the planchet to spread out. You coin does not display these characteristics.

Even if it was a broad strike it's not a jackpot coin, it would not be worth that much money even if it was certified. It's just not a big money error.

I am sorry to tell you this but it's the truth.
:agree:

Re: Please Help me identity this Error it is not post strike

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:06 am
by bomber7777
I think this is a combination of extra metal broad strike, I know this sounds a little crazy, but this coin has writing on the rim were it appears to be folded over, in other words, the coin was struck over the folded over part of the rim, this cannot be a post strike damaged coin, it is not. If you could see the coin you would agree, so what could this possibly be then?---Where can anybody suggest I take this coin to get it looked at?---

Re: Please Help me identity this Error it is not post strike

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:12 am
by bomber7777
I know I sound crazy guys but I am not, it is frustrating because I know this coin had to be struck at the mint, the writing on the rim that is folded over matches exactly what is underneath, the folded over rim is to symmetrical to be done by hand or someone trying to make a ring, the folded over rim is a machine striking the coin, this is a Lewis and Clark 2004 Nickel if that helps, on the back of this coin the Lewis and Clark print is crooked also, but other than that, the back of the coin is fine..............