ERROR 1963 ON DEFECTIVE PLANCHET AU SILVER ROOSEVELT DIME

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This is a coin i bought for a buc it appears to be a 1963 P STRUCK ON DEFECTIVE PLANCHET GRADE AU55 SILVER ROOSEVELT DIME JUST SEEING IF ANYONE CAN TELL ME WHAT ITS WORTH ABOUT

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do you have the 'broken off piece' mate?
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#3 Unread post by 2centsal »

:cool: Someone was hungry !! Just joking . There is actually a Real Error like this but if you paid a Dollar than most likely it's worthless to a collector and I'll explain why .
In my Error Book called " Price Guide to Mint Errors " by Alan Herbert , it's referred to as simply a " Broken Coin During the Strike " . If the Coin was broken due to " Undue Pressure", it's worthless . However, if it's examined and determined to be caused by faulty mixture of the alloy, crystallization of the coin metal due to faulty heating of the melt, it is collectable. How much ? I don't know . The book says $20 up . We all know however that Error Values are controversial for many reasons which I won't go into .
They have an example of a Nickel that shows both pieces and says that it was confirmed to be a true error by the lack of distortion or metal flow at the edge of the break .
Can anyone shed some light on what this means and how can a Novice collector determine how this happened ? Eric, do you know where the other piece is ? Maybe you need both pieces to determine why it broke ?

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#4 Unread post by dipper13 »

I do not see indicators on the opposite side of the coin??? Post mint break???

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i bought it from the fleamarket without the other piece but to me it looks like it broke at the mint because you can see the E in America slightly stamped on an area where it was boken so to me it appears that it broke during the strike
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oh and the reason why i got it for a dollar is because i got it from Wagon Wheel Flemarket in florida the dealers out there wouldnt know a error from a hole in the ground LOL

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They have an example of a Nickel that shows both pieces and says that it was confirmed to be a true error by the lack of distortion or metal flow at the edge of the break .
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What that means is they confirmed that the coin was not damaged or cut to create the error and is a true error

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It looks like a split and detached planchet. It is a mint error and it would sell for $10 and up depending on the collector who buys or bids, IF you use ebay.

I do not believe the coin is PMD because that would take a huge amount of pressure and that would be evident on the rest of the coin as pressure points or a bend in the coin.

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Daniel wrote:It looks like a split and detached planchet. It is a mint error and it would sell for $10 and up depending on the collector who buys or bids, IF you use ebay.

I do not believe the coin is PMD because that would take a huge amount of pressure and that would be evident on the rest of the coin as pressure points or a bend in the coin.
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#10 Unread post by Christian651 »

i agree and disagree there are signs of pressure on the rim on both sides it is pressed flat in certian parts also the coin is slightly hollow so to me it could be struck on a faulty planchet but ill just take it over to randy at icg and see what he says you may be right ill find out this week and let you know here are some pics of a similar error coin

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#11 Unread post by Christian651 »

here is a similar example of what type of error this coin is
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Hard to see enough details in the images posted but no way to break a coin like this without obvious damage and bending and flattening of pressure points, and these would be evident in even the worth images.

The planchet was defective from maybe a contaminate in the alloy or something similar. I have seen similar errors and some with the detached part included.

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now i agree with you that is correct the alloy mixture was incorrect witch made the coin weak and that is what caused the PM break or damage but again i wasn't trying to figure out what error this is i am 99% sure its a defective planchet was trying figure what the coin was worth and i found out that modern defective planchets go for anywhere from $20 to $500 depending on denomination and how drastic the error is and was told this one should bring $50 to $200 in auction

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Had it looked at again today by one of the top graders in Florida and he says The coin was struck on a defective planchet. Defective planchets are caused by defective sheets from which the planchets are
struck. Sheets can be defective for a variety reasons including impurities or debris in the metal
used. This coins weight is 1.89 G and grded out at AU53 and is now up for auction on ebay

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#16 Unread post by Christian651 »

not offended at all and im not trying to promote anything just said the coin is on sale on ebay didnt mention the name of my co didnt mention the names of the graders i have i said anything about my co on this post

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I am not a picky person but it's on the slab picture you posted and you mentioned it in another topic, so be fair. I run a forum that's for the health of all collectors and I can't state many reasons, based on years of experience, on why I have certain rules.

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#18 Unread post by Christian651 »

i understand no problem

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