1986 D Lincoln Date Error: Backwards "L"986 D: Any Help??

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1986 D Lincoln Date Error: Backwards "L"986 D: Any Help??

#1 Unread post by 28MHobby »

Hunting through a few banks rolls this afternoon teaching my son and stumbled upon this. Never seen anything like it before and can't find anything on it. The 1 in the date looks like it was "repunched" on a 90 degree rotation "backwards L." Seems a little extreme of an error. Anyone ever run into this or ever seen one?

Tragically there's a scratch on the reverse.

Any assistance appreciated. Thank you.
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#2 Unread post by mhonzell »

I don't really have an answer for you, but that's pretty interesting.

Being a clad coin, my first guess is a cladding issue, such as: bubbling. Supporting this is a false rim on the right side of the coin, which is fairly common with these. The "bubble" is just conveniently placed in a very distracting way.

The other possible is a die chip. But, I would think that unlikely due to the location. No weak structures in the field to break, like those you would find in the center of the 'D' or '9'.
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#3 Unread post by Paul »

'lil die scratch?
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#4 Unread post by Maineman750 »

Probably a linear plating blister. An accident such as a backwards L cannot happen in the die making process because the design is transferred from the master die (without going into detail). The only backwards misplaced letter would be from a dropped letter, but that would be incuse, not raised.
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#5 Unread post by Daniel »

I agree, it's a plating bubble that just looks like a digit or number.

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#6 Unread post by 28MHobby »

The perpendicular "object" is separate from the 1 digit itself but ties in nicely. Not inferring that it was actually a backwards "L" but only the appearance of one (size is way off and objects are clearly separate). A close up view, to which I can't get a good one with my camera, almost looks like two separate lines coming off the one. My first though was a die scratch similar to many variety in the past such as the 1860 "Toothpick" IHC, but with an error so blatant I couldn't dream that it hadn't been identified before.

I guess my next question would be is this coin a singular anomaly, the literal 1 in 4.4 billion, or is this one of several that may exist for this date/mint mark? I'm unfamiliar with plating bubbles. Unique to singular coins?

jokingly of course: You all aren't helping. I've got kids to put through college or trade school or something. You're supposed to tell me it's some 5 digit figure collectable or something....

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#7 Unread post by Nolifeking »

While it's probably unique it's not really collectible. It might not occur often in that exact spot and orientation plating bubbles are quite common so no value added.

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#8 Unread post by cableman »

Try using a toothpick and press lightly on the area and see if it depresses.If it does,it's a bubble.

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#9 Unread post by Maineman750 »

cableman wrote:Try using a toothpick and press lightly on the area and see if it depresses.If it does,it's a bubble.
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#10 Unread post by Scubaredneck »

Does the mint-mark show some abraded die "false-doubling" or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

Way cool feature in the date! Definitely a keeper. :cool:
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#11 Unread post by eric.yardley »

:greatfind: that is awesome 😀

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