2 2004 D Odd Ear and doubling

[pahwa]

I don't know about either one of these but both are sort of unique Just more stuff??

The first one the ear is odd.

The second one the odd doubling on United.

[okiemac]

I have the same exact ear on 2 2004 D. I can't wait to see what the guys say about this!

[pahwa]

It will be interesting to see what the eastern guys have to say about it. :thumbsup:

[Nolifeking]

Well I'm not too far East, but I'll throw in my two cents. I'm thinking the ear may be a combination of strike doubling and or a contact mark. Contact marks happen a lot on pennies and I notice that a popular spot is the lower earlobe. The second coin I'd say very minor strike doubling.

[pahwa]

Well you are way East of me. :l I'll take two cents worth anytime. I have seen whack marks on the lobe before but the rolled edge to the north west is weird to say the least for a strike. However, it is a very good chance that is what it is. I found two of these yesterday just identical and okiemac has a couple. I wonder if it is a die set or a certain die that has this as a normal strike.

The wife brought home 2 more boxes of bank rolled coins last night. Heck I have 5 to work on now. Will be busy for a while anyway. I have high hopes that something will be there, but then again I have said that over the last 20 or so boxes. lol

[Daniel]

I am agreeing with nolife on what he said. It appears to be strike doubling and contact mark. I know you will find something so keep going!

[Maineman750]

It looks a hit on the ear. Try to imagine what the ear would look like without that doubled part, it would be a tiny ear, which means not hub doubling.A doubled die always makes the devices larger than normal.
If you have two coins "exactly" alike, I think I would send them to Bob Piazza or Chuck Daughtrey of coppercoins for attribution...only problem is I cannot think of an error that would do this.

[pahwa]

Thanks for the help you guys. I didn't put an over lay on it to see if there was a big difference in the ears. Looking at it under the loupe and scope it sure doesn't look like a strike. It may take a bit to find the other coin as it went into the cull pile as it was the first one I found and I thought the same thing, just a hit or something. Then finding this one brought up the question. Wouldn't ya know it. :l If okiemac has a couple maybe he should send them in. I may look for the other one when time permits and I save that particular cull pile.

So the other coin is just slight MD then? It didn't have the typical tapered look I have seen on the long letters as seen so often. Just curious anyway, and it is too insignificant of an anomaly to be a serious find.

[Maineman750]

Yes, the second looks like MD. But if you can do overlays, try overlaying a normal ear over this one..I'll bet they match in size.

Forgot to add that the doubling in two directions is another sign the second one is not a doubled die.

[Daniel]

Here's overlays for almost all US coins, thanks to Mark Durante http://coinauctionshelp.com/overlay_home.html

[pahwa]

That is great! Thanks Daniel. Great for checking die clashes and other goodies.

I have some software that allows me to flop coins and produce overlays as such. This is a heck of a lot faster.

[okiemac]

Good info. Thank you Pahwa for posting this and ALL the rest for your expertise. I appreciate the education. I'm barely past putting a cent into a 2x2 and labeling it because it has a crooked mintmark... LOL.

And Okiemac is a she...... widegrin

[Daniel]

We all went through keeping the crooked mint marks or any other anomoly. It's a good thing, label them for what they are, then you will amass a huge reference over time. It's almost like a picture book.

[pahwa]

I still keep stuff I probably shouldn't but they are ! widegrin

[okiemac]

Yeah, me too. And Daniel says it's okay too. Thank you. :)

I am still looking for my other 2004 D ear dent/gouge/scratch/not likely double/strike.... I did the same as you Pahwa. But I kept the first one, then discarded the second thinking "oh, that's normal"... Anyway, I'll look for it to see if they are indeed indentical. Maybe worth a look if so (thanks Roger for the advice there). And...... I'm bored.

[okiemac]

Okay... I have looked at it under the new usb microscope. Here is the one I have. Not the same as yours Pahwa. Don't think I'll look for the other one.... I'm guessing I have a double contact mark/dent/strike/badly peirced ear.... :confused:

[pahwa]

That is interesting. The top picture has what looks like a strike on the lob. That straight line at least to me looks like a strike. What is curious about the lobe, to anyway, is the lower rounded area below what I think is a strike. We will have to wait to see what the experts have to say about it. They do look a lot alike.

[Maineman750]

Yup..looks like it took a couple of hits.If every thing were level you would have a normal size ear and that is what I look for.