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Strange nickel
I have a "nickel" that is paper thin, no apparent erosion, neither side is distorted. It is thinner than a dime and slightly larger than a dime.
Has anyone heard of this?
Has anyone heard of this?
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Re: Strange nickel
Welcome to the forum.
Can you please include some images of the front, reverse and maybe even the edge showing how thin it is (maybe next to a Lincoln cent?)
Can you please include some images of the front, reverse and maybe even the edge showing how thin it is (maybe next to a Lincoln cent?)
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Re: Strange nickel
Thank you for the images. :thumbsup:
They help a lot and are very interesting. Is the nickel in question a 1964. It definitely has circulation wear, with nicks and dings around the perimeter.
Others here are much more knowledgeable than myself, so hopefully they will correct any errors in my reply.
A couple of things I notice (and I'm definitely an amateur) are:
1)There is an overall weakness to the strike on the obverse and reverse. (Which can be faked chemically)
2)The outer edges of the devices towards the rim (letter/numbers) are partly missing. (Which could be ground or sanded down)
3)And of course how thin the coin is. (This is harder to fake without removing more of the devices/details)
You may have a nice mint error but you need to do at least two things to convince most people.
First thing to do would be to weigh it (in grams) to see if it matches the weight of any other US coins and the second would be to take it to a jeweler or coin dealer/shop to do a non invasive test it to see if it is composed of silver. A non invasive test doesn't alter or remove any of the coin's surface.
Once you have a determination on the metal composition you could send it to a grading company and they would encapsulate it for a fee ($40-$75?), but then there would be no question as to what you have.
Here is site to visit to gain more knowledge for off metal coins in case it applies to yours. LINK
Thanks for sharing and be sure to let us know what you find out.
They help a lot and are very interesting. Is the nickel in question a 1964. It definitely has circulation wear, with nicks and dings around the perimeter.
Others here are much more knowledgeable than myself, so hopefully they will correct any errors in my reply.
A couple of things I notice (and I'm definitely an amateur) are:
1)There is an overall weakness to the strike on the obverse and reverse. (Which can be faked chemically)
2)The outer edges of the devices towards the rim (letter/numbers) are partly missing. (Which could be ground or sanded down)
3)And of course how thin the coin is. (This is harder to fake without removing more of the devices/details)
You may have a nice mint error but you need to do at least two things to convince most people.
First thing to do would be to weigh it (in grams) to see if it matches the weight of any other US coins and the second would be to take it to a jeweler or coin dealer/shop to do a non invasive test it to see if it is composed of silver. A non invasive test doesn't alter or remove any of the coin's surface.
Once you have a determination on the metal composition you could send it to a grading company and they would encapsulate it for a fee ($40-$75?), but then there would be no question as to what you have.
Here is site to visit to gain more knowledge for off metal coins in case it applies to yours. LINK
Thanks for sharing and be sure to let us know what you find out.
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Re: Strange nickel
No US planchet has ever been this thin, there is rolled thin planchet errors but this coin has some metal displacement consistent with an after mint alteration. If this planchet was this thin during the strike then it would not have struck the detail you can see.
1964 nickels are not silver but mostly nickel and copper, and off metal coins do not have this appearance.
We also have information on this website about off metal planchets http://coinauctionshelp.com/1971-SLinco ... rrors.html
Here's a cent struck on a silver planchet http://coinauctionshelp.com/1980-DLinco ... rrors.html
What some must realize is the reason you can still see details on such a thin coin is the same reason you can put nick a date on a buffalo nickel and reveal the date.
1964 nickels are not silver but mostly nickel and copper, and off metal coins do not have this appearance.
We also have information on this website about off metal planchets http://coinauctionshelp.com/1971-SLinco ... rrors.html
Here's a cent struck on a silver planchet http://coinauctionshelp.com/1980-DLinco ... rrors.html
What some must realize is the reason you can still see details on such a thin coin is the same reason you can put nick a date on a buffalo nickel and reveal the date.
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Re: Strange nickel
Thank you for your responses! I don't have any way to weigh the "nickel". Guess I will check with a jewler as PetesPocket suggested. I wonder, Daniel, how one would alter a normal nickel to get it to this point without erosion from within? I have had this nickel for over 30 years. I really appreciate everyone's help.
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Re: Strange nickel
How it happened isn't as important as knowing this doesn't happen during any of the divisions of the minting process and with that being the case we can ascertain that it is post mint damage. I have a couple pennies just like your nickel.
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Sounds like a one-of-a-kind mint error. Would love to see the pictures of your pennies.
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Re: Strange nickel
If I get a chance but when I tell you I have something then it's 100% fact. I don't play games.
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Re: Strange nickel
My apologies aunty. I should have stuck to asking you for more info instead of making unfounded suggestions.
Pahl1 and Daniel are the experienced professionals. As they both said there are other ways for a coin to be altered after it leaves the mint (by very bored individuals).
Look up chemically altered or dryer coins as Pahl said for information on damaged coins.
But if you still want to satisfy your curiosity you can certainly take it to a jeweler for testing but just be ready for normal (non silver) results.
And I want to thank you again for sharing because that is how we all gain knowledge and understanding.
Pahl1 and Daniel are the experienced professionals. As they both said there are other ways for a coin to be altered after it leaves the mint (by very bored individuals).
Look up chemically altered or dryer coins as Pahl said for information on damaged coins.
But if you still want to satisfy your curiosity you can certainly take it to a jeweler for testing but just be ready for normal (non silver) results.
And I want to thank you again for sharing because that is how we all gain knowledge and understanding.
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Re: Strange nickel
Here's my thin coins. I found one that is weak and thin and another that seems struck well but it still too thin. The 1910 on the far left is a normal and worn coin for comparison and usually the 1910 is about as thin as they get unless they're no dates.
Suffice it to say I don't claim to know every little thing but over my lifetime I have amassed a large collection of non-mint errors that I have only begun to catalog and add to my website. I know it is long over-due but I am a busy man.
The images are not that great but I was in a hurry.
Suffice it to say I don't claim to know every little thing but over my lifetime I have amassed a large collection of non-mint errors that I have only begun to catalog and add to my website. I know it is long over-due but I am a busy man.
The images are not that great but I was in a hurry.
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The two on the right have been treated with acid so they're damaged.
[BBvideo=560,315]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6HGSClA80U[/BBvideo]
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Re: Strange nickel
:trophy: teaching example D !! :thumbsup:Daniel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:07 am The two on the right have been treated with acid so they're damaged.
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Re: Strange nickel
Excellent examples Daniel. Thanks.Daniel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:07 am The two on the right have been treated with acid so they're damaged.
[BBvideo=560,315]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6HGSClA80U[/BBvideo]
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