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Cumberland Gap Quarter Error????

#1 Unread post by karbak71 »

Hello All
I am really, really new to coin collecting and have problems recognizing true errors. Can someone look at these pictures and tell me if this is a die Crack or some kind of error? I'm hoping the pics are even good enough.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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#2 Unread post by Daniel »

I can't tell what that is, the images are blurry when I enlarge. Could be a die chip.

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#3 Unread post by mhonzell »

I'm tending to agree with Daniel. Looks like a die chip. Kind of an odd place for one.
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I will try to send better pictures. Thank you

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#5 Unread post by PetesPockets55 »

And please include where the area in question starts and ends. Or better yet, if you have an editing program mark or circle it on the images. Thanks.

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Daniel wrote:I can't tell what that is, the images are blurry when I enlarge. Could be a die chip.
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#7 Unread post by karbak71 »

Hello all,
I'd like to post better pics of this plus many other coins I have questions about.
Can someone please advise on the best way to take pics, what mp the photos should be taken at, etc....

Thank you and I look forward to your expert snswers.
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#8 Unread post by mhonzell »

The hardest part of taking the picture is holding the camera still once it is focused. It doesn't take much to blur a blown up coin image.

Most cell phones or point and shoots have enough MP for the pic, 3MP is probably the minimum, but it is more important to fill the frame with the coin, if the camera will focus that close.
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mhonzell wrote:The hardest part of taking the picture is holding the camera still once it is focused. It doesn't take much to blur a blown up coin image.

Most cell phones or point and shoots have enough MP for the pic, 3MP is probably the minimum, but it is more important to fill the frame with the coin, if the camera will focus that close.
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you can have the perfect lighting & perfect focus,.....but if the camera is not perfectly still..... :s

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my equipment is so sensitive, the tiny cycle humm from a CPAP 25' away (breathing machine), will blur my pics !!
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#10 Unread post by karbak71 »

Thank you, great advise. I think a tripod will help tremendiusly. I will work on the pictures and ask for your patience. I'm working Graves right now and don't have a lot of spare time. I definitely look forward to posting more pics so I can learn more. I never knew coin collecting would be so interesting. I'm embracing my inner nerd. Lol

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I am still new to this, but every coin i get i thoroughly examine under up to 50x magnification. My question pertains to these new cumberland gap quarter i have included to pics, i know where the discrepancy is located but want some opinions from the community. I will uplad another pic of the front of coin with some other bizarre flaw, but not sure if it is pmd. Any help would be greatly appreciated thatnk you all.
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I am not complaining about your photography skills, but we cannot always see what you see and when we look closely at the photo it's just blurry. So, it is always best to point to where you think there is something suspicious. Again, we have analyzed a myriad of blurry pictures, but we need a starting point.

That said, is this the same "error" as the previous post? If so, the angle of lighting is hiding it on the left coin.
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#13 Unread post by PetesPockets55 »

Yes. Lighting makes a big difference. The "V" of the coat under the neck could be different or just different light. Or it could be the gun barrel. "Point" us in a the right direction to look. hugeeyes Thanks.

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This is just not how we do things in this forum, if you want help tell us what you think you're seeing. With that said I don't see anything special about these coins and most minor errors have no extra value.

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#15 Unread post by CopperFinger »

Hi Mr. Freeze,and Welcome. I think I see the area in question underneigh the Gun on the arm were it bends. It does look like a small Die Chip to me which would make it a coin struck from a damaged Die.

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Yes I bought a cheepy tripod for about 7 bucks and works wonders. I don't know how good your picture taking skills are but the thing that helped Me most was to obtain an owners Manual for my camera and to learn what the actual settings are and how to apply them. I have a old CannonPower Shot and it seems to work pretty good for what's being used for here.

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#17 Unread post by mhonzell »

CopperFinger wrote:I think I see the area in question underneigh the Gun on the arm were it bends. It does look like a small Die Chip to me which would make it a coin struck from a damaged Die.
Thanks for pointing that out... I agree... possible die chip, but with the photo, still unsure.

I'm reposting a piece of your photo just to be sure I'm looking at the right spot.
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#18 Unread post by Mr. Freeze »

Sorry about the vague description i was being rushed off of my phone per preflight requirements, but yes it is a small "bubble" if you will under the elbow. Thank you all for the speedy responses, again i apologize for any disrespect i may have caused.

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#19 Unread post by Daniel »

It's a small die chip.

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I was wondering if this was a error coin or what you think.
I'm not sure if this is an error coin but it looks like George Washington has been bitten by a vampire
I'm not sure if this is an error coin but it looks like George Washington has been bitten by a vampire

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#21 Unread post by Daniel »

This is a contact mark from the edge reeding of another coin, it contacted the coin at an angle.

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Daniel wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:39 pm This is a contact mark from the edge reeding of another coin, it contacted the coin at an angle.
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#23 Unread post by curtiss.payne »

Ok... Thanks for the quick reply.

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