1935 Washington Quarter DDO FS-25-1935-101

[Paul]

LDS1 1935 WQ doubled die obverse
FS-25-1935-101 / 1-O-II-C+V-CCW(K2)
there may be a change coming here to the variety....MAYBE?

1. LATE DIE STATE

[Paul]

if we look at the published info on this exact variety...
do you hugeeyes the difference in 'attributes' they list for this die pair??
i always go by the CONECA listings.....

& that jim needs one for study

[Paul]

i see the class 2 on the 'E'....
the class 5 on the 'L'....
& easy to see double on the IGWT motto....

but i do hugeeyes a nice spread on the '35' of the date, weaker due to die state, but 100% there....
so, is the current listed info on the 101, really only a MD1.....??

WE SHALL SEE

1.MASTER DOUBLED

[Paul]

jim has it now, as i mailed it to his house....
so tic-toc, anytime now....
this kinda stuff, i DO want cedit for!

[Paul]

i need uz guyz help please:

remember that these 'slabs'... are not what you think...
the "fish-eyes" are 'bubbles' in the plastic

[Paul]

the 'L' is a C1 CCW
not looking at the 'upright', as they fracture out first on class 1's, look at the 'tip' of the 'L', FINDIND 2 SEPERATE "SWOOPS" OF THE END OF THE UPPER TIP....

[Paul]

the 'E' is a C2 center
notice throught the crummy slab, you can barely make out the seperation on the 'center & outer' crossbars

[Paul]

the IGWT

[Paul]

the '3' in the date

[Paul]

the '5' in the date

[Paul]

important to remember that this is a LDS coin with a 'HEAVY HAZE' on the surface, & looking through a crummy piece of plastic..... whistling2:

[Paul]

with no responses, i'm guessing:
a. everybody got angry at my "VF30" on the columbia half, see who is really paying attention post...or
b. sees what i do in the attribution images....?

anywhoo,
here is the response i got. now, giving the 'benefit of a doubt' here,...i have several thoughts.
keeping it to the simple & most logical. &, from my experience of submitting coins i have inspected myself, under a high power close-up microscope first, that were ONLY dirty/hazy, & came back "labeled" as 'corroded', or 'enviro'..............i think the biggest problem, or issue here, is that it is not possible to accurately "see" the 'true condition & details', using a 5x, or even a 10x loupe. sometimes even a good quality 20x triplet just is not enough....it should be,..if you are very experienced on 'how' to use it. it takes time to learn 'how' to use loupes...lighting, angles, views from different directions...so on. that is why i always suggest to 'spin' the coin as you view it....... & IS EXACTLY WHY I OWN A $1000 CLOSE-UP SCOPE. i also know how crazy busy these guys are, the time spent actually looking at this coin?,....& the huge volume of coins that get sent to them that are really just 'striking anomolies', & not 'real die varieties'.

for those of you that see the reference to 'metal flow'....nope, not even close...again, not enough power to the viewing aid. it might 'look like it at that power', but is not.

[Paul]

i wanted to add the following info.
i have people send me "graded & 'variety labeled' attributed coins" every so often...
this one was from a fellow state rep for CONECA. when he looked at it, he thought i should see it, just to confirm what he saw.

here is a "graded & label attributed" 1858 large letter flying eagle cent that was 'graded' MS64 by what people call a "top grading company", with the variety designation of a rare DDO. i could tell you why/how, & for who they do this for, but you would not believe me anyway, as you have tought yourself that these 'companies' are the 'premier' leaders in the industry. but.....
this coin was nothing more than a double struk, with metal flow :s

he paid a HUGE amount of $$ for it too! screwed? yep. live & learn, the hard way!

NOTE: THE IMAGE "FILE NAMES" ARE WRONG. I JUMBLED UP THE ANNOTATIONS WHEN I COPIED THE SNAPS FROM THE SCOPE FILES TO HIS FILE, AS I WAS DOING SENERAL COINS AT THE SAME TIME.

[Daniel]

I would believe you, seen too much in this business to be blind to these companies and their methods.

[dipper13]

AMEN!!!