20 CENT PIECES

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20 CENT PIECES

#1 Unread post by dipper13 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:51 pm

Guys, I just got these back from ANACS. Please comment on the grades and "DETAILS." I agree with the grades only. I will take pix with my scope, these scans are terrible.
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Re: 20 CENT PIECES

#2 Unread post by Daniel » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:57 pm

I am going to have to wait on the better images. I can't make out much from these scans.

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Re: 20 CENT PIECES

#3 Unread post by dipper13 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:01 pm

The scratch is on the obverse of a VG8 coin. It is hair thin to the left of her head , not obvious , I could see if it was graded higher.???
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#4 Unread post by Daniel » Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:19 am

Since it goes across the field then it shows up, but it's doesn't look that obvious to me. Of course I am basing this on images and might change my mind if I saw the coin in hand. The coin looks fine otherwise and a resubmit might get a different grade. Who knows?

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Re: 20 CENT PIECES

#5 Unread post by PALH1 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:37 am

Daniel wrote:Since it goes across the field then it shows up, but it's doesn't look that obvious to me. Of course I am basing this on images and might change my mind if I saw the coin in hand. The coin looks fine otherwise and a resubmit might get a different grade. Who knows?
:agree: , this 'looks' like,....from these pics....what's called a 'nail mark'.
nail mark = lightly drag you fingernail, BACKWARDS (like your flicking something), over the surface, leaving the original surface buildup bare in that so called "scratch" area. you need to look real close to see if that mark actually is 'into, or disturbed' the uppermost metallic surface of the coin. as if someone was trying to flick off a 'fluffy' that showed up when they went to picture it...?
remember, they are zipp'n through coins.....sometimes without even using any type of loupe.......& your 'grader?' just saw it as a scratch.....

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Re: 20 CENT PIECES

#6 Unread post by dipper13 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:00 am

Here is the f-15 coin they say was cleaned. The surfaces are gray/black with nothing odd around the devices.
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Re: 20 CENT PIECES

#7 Unread post by PetesPockets55 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:09 am

dipper13 wrote:Here is the f-15 coin they say was cleaned. The surfaces are gray/black with nothing odd around the devices.
Just curious what causes the lighter "halo" effect around the head, her right shoulder, and around stars @ 9 & 10:00.
Could that be what "they" saw?

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Re: 20 CENT PIECES

#8 Unread post by dipper13 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:35 am

There is also a lighter line kind of across the date. I thought it was just handling that caused this. One of the eagle wings also has a light spot, but I never saw a coin that was cleaned here and there for no apparent reason. The places that should be obvious( around the stars) are untouched.

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Re: 20 CENT PIECES

#9 Unread post by Daniel » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:46 pm

If a coin is dipped in a chemical then it doesn't always leave a halo effect around the devices, that's usually caused when a person uses an abrasive on the coin and doesn't get close enough to the stars.

Usually when a coin's surface is altered by a dipping substance and if it's properly removed or handled afterward then the coin can get a splotchy or uneven toning effect. I do see how this coin could be dipped and retoned, but nothing harsh and shouldn't hurt the value much.

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Re: 20 CENT PIECES

#10 Unread post by cableman » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:43 am

The f15 looks ok as Liberty is not complete on this coin.The vg8 coin could have been a bit higher to vg10 I think.Would have to have coin in hand to see the "scratch" though. Also could be an old cleaning and has retoned.I have a gold coin (ANACS AU50 1851o 2 1/2 $ with the tougher 4 digit rpm) where I don't see any evidence of a cleaning(fine lines,discolorations,ect) and it received a cleaning tag too.I also have the 2 1/2 $ 1852o with some evidence of a very light cleaning that received au55 details cleaned. I expected the cleanong tag on the 52 but not the 51.They were sent in together.

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