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#11 Unread post by dipper13 »

These guys are details crazy. I am sending the f-15 to NGC, they are more even handed, ANACs thrives on "details." Actually, I should send them both after I break them out.

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Well guys, I was right! I just got my 2 20 cent pieces back from NGC. Neither one got a details grade! Don't believe everything ANACS does is right. They are DETAILS CRAZY>
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#13 Unread post by Daniel »

Good, I was on the fence on these coins because I only had the images to go by. I am glad they came back problem free and that makes a difference in their value.

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Looks like I was correct on my grade guesses.Glad the got a correct grade.Makes me think of all the coins I got back from anacs as details/cleaned of how accurate they really are??????

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#15 Unread post by cableman »

When you sent these to ngc,did you crack them out of the anacs holder 1st?

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Oh yes, I have learned the hard way to crack them out. Remember, the three main graders do not like each other,so take no chances on prejudices ! This way you start on an even playing field. If you ever read M. Fahey in coin world he often says, " one of the major grading
companies calls this coin a vg 8, but I disagree!" = Translation, PCGS or NGC made a mistake. He works for ANACS.

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#17 Unread post by cableman »

I thought you did,just wanted to make sure.Makes sense not to give them a head start on what someone else thinks.I have an 1875cc that anacs graded g6 and does look to be fairly accurate.Possibly could have made vg8 as the rims are stronger than a g6 coin.I'm on the laptop now and I'll post pics a little later when I get on the main computer.

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I have collected coins a long time. Most of the 20 cent pieces I ran into were P-1, F-2 or AG-3. People wanted $40 or $50 for the beat ones years ago. I once saw a mint state piece! These two are the most common, 1875 S. I believe that since these coins lasted five years plus a couple proof only years, they are very rare. They are working on 150 years old! The book says the retail in g-4 is $100 for 1875 S. Everything else is very pricey. The fact is they are all worth more than they show. I sent these in to NGC because I knew I had good pieces. I wasted $20 plus shipping at ANACS. Like you cableman, I have a lot of details ANACS slabs. There are others that I suspect were OK. I sent another pair to PCGS through a friend and they came back normal. They were Morgans, one for grade, one for details. Both came back as I hoped. How many more do we have that are really OK? That is the question we should ask ourselves. Dan

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Hi Dan,These were only issued 2 years for circulation,1875 from the p,s and cc mints and 1876 only p and cc.I agree a very undervalued coin,similar to the $2 1/2 gold thread Dan was talking about a short while ago.All 4 years have proof issues.Here's the breakdown on mintages:
Year Mint mark Proofs Circulation strikes
1875 2,790 36,910
1875 CC 133,290
1875 S 12 1,155,000
1876 1,260 14,640
1876 CC 10,000
1877 510
1878 600
Here are the pics of the cc coin I mentioned.I have another 1875cc in a vg8 but has some graffiti on the obverse and a couple 1875s coins at f12,possible f15 and vg8.
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Ok

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dipper13 wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:01 pm The scratch is on the obverse of a VG8 coin. It is hair thin to the left of her head , not obvious , I could see if it was graded higher.???
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