Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

Post anything about coin grading holders, questions, images, facts announcements. If it's in, or about, or is a coin holders this is where to post it.

Moderator: Daniel

Forum rules
Here's a link to how to post a topic with images in our community https://coinauctionshelp.com/welcome-to ... community/

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________

You also agree to follow these guidelines. You must agree to these rules to be a member of this forum. NO SPAM! Spam is deleted within minutes, no spam will ever be left in our community.

1. Post a front and back image of your coin with a specific question about what you’re seeing or asking about and one coin per topic.

2. Please remove coin from the holder unless it’s US or an official mint case or unless it is graded by a grading service.

3. Images should be taken by a camera or cell phone camera, we ask that members don’t use images through a microscope screen.

4. Always start your own topic, please don’t ask about your coin or post your coin in someone else’s coin topic.

5. Do not send private messages about your coin unless an Admin ask you too and the same for sending emails through the board.

6. No spam. Do not post any links to your coin or other non-coin websites.

7. Always be respectful even if something makes you upset or you don’t agree with a member. You can always get a second opinion elsewhere. If you have an issue then politely ask an admin in an PM. PM’s are for issues, technical and personal, but not for coin questions (refer to number 5 on this list). Our community is not a soap box for complaining or drama, so please refrain from doing so here.[/size]
Post Reply
Message
Author
Black Cat
Coining Around
Posts: 9
Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:16 pm

Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#1 Unread post by Black Cat »

Hello,
Found in the field between scattered Roman coins, I can not identify what this coin is. Please help determine which coin. Has a diameter of 20mm. Material is silver.
IMG_4114_1.jpg
IMG_4115_1.jpg

User avatar
Paul
Master Die Variety Examiner
Master Die Variety Examiner
Posts: 18735
Joined: Wed May 29, 2013 9:19 pm
Location: Wisconsin
Has thanked: 896 times
Been thanked: 3258 times

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#2 Unread post by Paul »

:welcome: ,
i'm no help here, sorry.... :confused:

:eureka:
but i know some others here will know.
C.O.N.E.C.A. Wi State Rep
Fly-In Club Wi State Rep

User avatar
mhonzell
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 2734
Joined: Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:14 pm
Location: Arizona
Has thanked: 172 times
Been thanked: 461 times

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#3 Unread post by mhonzell »

Sorry, but nothing I've seen before. Looks too modern in design. Alien holding a bat with pointy fingers on other hand. Reverse with an insect head.
Civil War Tokens
Morgan Dollars
Ancient Coins

User avatar
Daniel
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 26129
Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:59 pm
Location: Ohio
Has thanked: 1121 times
Been thanked: 4074 times
Contact:

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#4 Unread post by Daniel »

Where were the Roman coins scattered? I agree with Mark. It looks like a fantasy piece.

User avatar
Paul
Master Die Variety Examiner
Master Die Variety Examiner
Posts: 18735
Joined: Wed May 29, 2013 9:19 pm
Location: Wisconsin
Has thanked: 896 times
Been thanked: 3258 times

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#5 Unread post by Paul »


hugeeyes
..... are there any 'markings or imprinting' along the "outer rim" ??

whistling2:
C.O.N.E.C.A. Wi State Rep
Fly-In Club Wi State Rep

User avatar
Paul
Master Die Variety Examiner
Master Die Variety Examiner
Posts: 18735
Joined: Wed May 29, 2013 9:19 pm
Location: Wisconsin
Has thanked: 896 times
Been thanked: 3258 times

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#6 Unread post by Paul »

hugeeyes example here:
Attachments
SO - Copy.JPG
1776 CONTINENTAL BECKER COPY COIN OBV - Copy.jpg
1776 CONTINENTAL BECKER COPY COIN REV - Copy.jpg
BECKER COPY COIN EDGE1.jpg
BECKER COPY COIN EDGE2.jpg
BECKER COPY COIN EDGE3.jpg
BECKER COPY COIN EDGE5.jpg
BECKER COPY COIN EDGE7.jpg
C.O.N.E.C.A. Wi State Rep
Fly-In Club Wi State Rep

Black Cat
Coining Around
Posts: 9
Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:16 pm

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#7 Unread post by Black Cat »

Daniel wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:28 pm Where were the Roman coins scattered? I agree with Mark. It looks like a fantasy piece.
On a plowed field on an area of 100x100 meters scattered Roman coins, side by side coins of the Austro-Hungarian Empire (copper and silver). Also there was found the silver Polish Grosh of 1539 (very thin and broken) .... and there are many more cannonballs and remnants of shells of the First World War. While stopped on the search for Roman coins.
IMG_4118.JPG

Black Cat
Coining Around
Posts: 9
Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:16 pm

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#8 Unread post by Black Cat »

PALH1 wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:33 am
hugeeyes
..... are there any 'markings or imprinting' along the "outer rim" ??

whistling2:
several photos from different angles ..... unfortunately no inscriptions :(
as if the cuneiform is below :)
IMG_4126.JPG
IMG_4128.JPG
IMG_4129.JPG

Black Cat
Coining Around
Posts: 9
Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:16 pm

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#9 Unread post by Black Cat »

mhonzell wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:12 pm Sorry, but nothing I've seen before. Looks too modern in design. Alien holding a bat with pointy fingers on other hand. Reverse with an insect head.
The first thing I'm surprised about is how different the obverse and reverse are in performance. It's as if it's different coins .... On the back it looks like a warrior is shown in armor, in the left hand is a battle ax (similar to Scandinavian ax or Skeggox), bat in his left hand has no thorns, on the head bearded helmet .... an arrow or a spear that sticks out from the foot, suggests that a specific event or person wanted to be portrayed.
Maybe this is a false idea... possibly a Celtic coin, there is some similarity.

PetesPockets55
Forum Supporter
Forum Supporter
Posts: 1863
Joined: Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:08 pm
Has thanked: 236 times
Been thanked: 36 times

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#10 Unread post by PetesPockets55 »

Any chance this could depict a Celtic fable or story of the local Gods.
I know this suggestion is biased from modern times but could it portray a sport (with the bat), similar to the Mayan's depicting a team sport on one of their arenas.
And I hate to say it but the opposite side appears to be a wide head (Frog?) with eyes and a slightly opened mouth.
Or if it is a well known site, some modern Jester taking a fantasy coin and tossing it in the field to mess with the Metal Detectorists. :confused:

Black Cat
Coining Around
Posts: 9
Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:16 pm

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#11 Unread post by Black Cat »

PetesPockets55 wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:15 am And I hate to say it but the opposite side appears to be a wide head (Frog?) with eyes and a slightly opened mouth.
Or if it is a well known site, some modern Jester taking a fantasy coin and tossing it in the field to mess with the Metal Detectorists. :confused:
On the reverse side, the profile of a bald and fat ruler with a collar in a drop. Easy smiles as if saying "Well, try to figure out who I am !!!" widegrin

tossing such a coin in that place is unlikely, especially the silver ..... In our state, this is a very luxurious joke.

I start with the search for thick rulers and try to compare their periods of government with the period of simultaneous use of battle bits, wide axes and armor. Maybe in their history there will be events that can correspond to the pictured .... Hard work and fun will be ....

Black Cat
Coining Around
Posts: 9
Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:16 pm

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#12 Unread post by Black Cat »

Thank you all for helping me determine if there are any ideas - I will listen to you with pleasure !!!

PetesPockets55
Forum Supporter
Forum Supporter
Posts: 1863
Joined: Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:08 pm
Has thanked: 236 times
Been thanked: 36 times

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#13 Unread post by PetesPockets55 »

Thanks for sharing and keep us informed if you find out more about it.
We like mysteries.

Black Cat
Coining Around
Posts: 9
Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:16 pm

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#14 Unread post by Black Cat »

PetesPockets55 wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:08 pm Thanks for sharing and keep us informed if you find out more about it.
We like mysteries.
when there will be something interesting - I will definitely subscribe :w

Black Cat
Coining Around
Posts: 9
Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:16 pm

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#15 Unread post by Black Cat »

Greetings to the community, it's been a long time since I first reached out to you. During this time, I could not find anything specific about this coin - only guesses. Found some similarities with Celtic coins but nothing like it. Now I dared to break up with her, who has any ideas? The coin is now in Europe.

User avatar
Earle42
Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 15453
Joined: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:18 am
Location: OH
Has thanked: 1319 times
Been thanked: 4853 times

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#16 Unread post by Earle42 »

There are some guys on coincommunity.com who are incredible sources of information for ancients. Try posting it there and seeing what they say.

I admit to my non-expert ancient coin level of experience it also looks modern and fantasy.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8

How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?

Black Cat
Coining Around
Posts: 9
Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:16 pm

Re: Barbarians, Persians .... what is it like?

#17 Unread post by Black Cat »

Earle42 wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:00 pm There are some guys on coincommunity.com who are incredible sources of information for ancients. Try posting it there and seeing what they say.

I admit to my non-expert ancient coin level of experience it also looks modern and fantasy.
Thank you very much for the advice and for your patience!!!! Have a good day! :)

Post Reply