This question applies to all coins, not just a nickel
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This question applies to all coins, not just a nickel
I noticed that Jefferson 5FS and Roosevelt FT values weren't listed in the guide I was using until MS65 give or take. Is that because a lesser grade 5FS or FT was only worth the value of the coins without these features or some other reason? I personally am happy to own either. I never had one back in the 70's. I thought they were fantasies...not really but I would have been happy to have had examples of either in any grade.
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Re: This question applies to all coins, not just a nickel
For old-timers like me, these designations were meant to
indicate "EDS" (Early Die State)
indicate "EDS" (Early Die State)
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Re: This question applies to all coins, not just a nickel
I agree with Paul.
2nd Law of Thermodynamics - all things move toward disorder and decay
Since all die details, including the steps, wear down as the die is used, It would seem there would have to be a grade at which you cannot find FS.
2nd Law of Thermodynamics - all things move toward disorder and decay
Since all die details, including the steps, wear down as the die is used, It would seem there would have to be a grade at which you cannot find FS.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
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Re: This question applies to all coins, not just a nickel
Interesting designation. I have never heard of it before but I completely understand early die state coins would have 6 steps at first, then 5 steps, and so on. The "so on" coins are the ones that I have. No, I do have a couple in mint sets that are 5 step and of course the newer coins. I suppose the mint did something different to protect the steps a little more. Is that a fair assumption?
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Re: This question applies to all coins, not just a nickel
Yes , this time with armed guards .
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Casual Collector 40+ years , 10 years Error coins ( still learning).
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Re: This question applies to all coins, not just a nickel
Well...not really.I suppose the mint did something different to protect the steps a little more. Is that a fair assumption?
Newer coins have full steps due to tech improvements in making coins over the years. So modern mint sets likely will have full steps.
Also, mint sets are not made with special coins. The mint sets coins are just scooped up out of the bins of coins made for circulation.
LOL!Yes , this time with armed guards .
...and barbed wire if its an usurped (by current residents) capital building.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
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Re: This question applies to all coins, not just a nickel
Your answers were similar but one concerned circulation wear to the coin and the other to die wear. My question was really aimed at mint state coins. The 'EDS' coins that have full steps could be any grade from MS60 to MS70 as I understand it and possibly a few of the higher grade circulated coins. Why would a price guide, I'm looking at the NGC guide at dimes at the moment, not list a price for FT dimes until MS65? The price on one particular dime is $20 at MS65FT, nothing from MS60-MS64. It would seem an MS64FT would be worth $10 or so. Why would it skip pricing the lower mint state grades? If the answer is collector geared, I don't know if I'd buy it. If could not afford a collection of MS65FT, I'd settle for a collection of MS60-64FT, whatever would be in my budget. If the answer is that NGC thought this coin designation irrelevent in grades less than MS65FT, I would accept that. I would only like to narrow it down a little, if that is possible. If not, then I'll move on.
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Re: This question applies to all coins, not just a nickel
I would recommend reading up on this issue, as it can be confusing to the newer and immediate collector.
Most of these "Extension Acronyms" are reserved only for the high MS values. A good example here is "Gem".
Most of these "Extension Acronyms" are reserved only for the high MS values. A good example here is "Gem".
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Yes, I was looking for tech improvements as an answer. The second half of your reply answers another question and I'm grateful. So, theorectically, if I had access to 1000 mint sets of a given year and mintmark, say the 1971D, I would have just as good a chance to find an error as I would going through 1000 circulation released Kennedy halves. The chance in 1000 coins might be 0.01%, but it is better than nil.Earle42 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:26 pmWell...not really.I suppose the mint did something different to protect the steps a little more. Is that a fair assumption?
Newer coins have full steps due to tech improvements in making coins over the years. So modern mint sets likely will have full steps.
Also, mint sets are not made with special coins. The mint sets coins are just scooped up out of the bins of coins made for circulation.
LOL!Yes , this time with armed guards .
...and barbed wire if its an usurped (by current residents) capital building.
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Re: This question applies to all coins, not just a nickel
This is what I needed to see. I do remember a time when grades were Unc, BU, and Gem BU. Now, there are 19 or 20 mint state grades. If one counted the circulated grades, which I think have MS numbers, then there are probably 30 something.
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Re: This question applies to all coins, not just a nickel
Yes. Your 1 thousand mint sets would just be regular coins made for circulation that the mint randomly put into plastic to sell for a profit. There is no special selection process to pick which coins go to the banks and which go into mint sets.Yes, I was looking for tech improvements as an answer. The second half of your reply answers another question and I'm grateful. So, theorectically, if I had access to 1000 mint sets of a given year and mintmark, say the 1971D, I would have just as good a chance to find an error as I would going through 1000 circulation released Kennedy halves. The chance in 1000 coins might be 0.01%, but it is better than nil.
Common grading company shortcomings & resulting co$tly mi$take$ to collectors (using Kennedy No FG halves):
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8
How much squash would a sasquatch squash if a sasquatch would squash squash?
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