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Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
This is the coin with the cressent moon on the reverse.
Does this help any?
Does this help any?
Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
Here is the first coin from the 2nd post.
On the reverse it looks to have a 5 and a 1??????
On the reverse it looks to have a 5 and a 1??????
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Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
Unfortunately, the camera appears to have focused on your hand. I can read your fingerprints quite well when blown up, but the coin becomes fuzzy.
Try laying the coin on a flat surface and then lowering your camera to the coin until the coin is as big as you can make it and still be clear.
I'm still leaning that the reverse text states MARKIONOPOLIS. So, this coin becomes:
Diadumenian. Æ 17 (Assarion). A.D. 217-218. He was a child Caesar after his father was killed in battle.
Markianopolis
Obv: M O ΠEΛΛI OC ANTΩNINOC. Draped and cuirassed bust right.
Rev: MAPKIANOΠOΛEITΩN . Crescent within which three stars.
Ref: BMC 41; Moushmov 602v.
Dia. 18mm Weight: 2.5 g .
Example of this coin in better? shape:
Try laying the coin on a flat surface and then lowering your camera to the coin until the coin is as big as you can make it and still be clear.
I'm still leaning that the reverse text states MARKIONOPOLIS. So, this coin becomes:
Diadumenian. Æ 17 (Assarion). A.D. 217-218. He was a child Caesar after his father was killed in battle.
Markianopolis
Obv: M O ΠEΛΛI OC ANTΩNINOC. Draped and cuirassed bust right.
Rev: MAPKIANOΠOΛEITΩN . Crescent within which three stars.
Ref: BMC 41; Moushmov 602v.
Dia. 18mm Weight: 2.5 g .
Example of this coin in better? shape:
Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
Ok. There are so many coins but most are covered in dirt. Any cleaning secrets?
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Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
Constantine the Great
333-335 A.D.
RIC VII Sisica xx
Dia. 18.86mm, Weight 2.75g
Rarity: R1
O:VRBS ROMA, helmeted bust of Roma, left, wearing imperial mantle
R: Romulus and Remus suckling from wolf, two stars above
SIS in ex. (I'm guessing at your mint mark.)
Another example of the same coin from a different mint:
333-335 A.D.
RIC VII Sisica xx
Dia. 18.86mm, Weight 2.75g
Rarity: R1
O:VRBS ROMA, helmeted bust of Roma, left, wearing imperial mantle
R: Romulus and Remus suckling from wolf, two stars above
SIS in ex. (I'm guessing at your mint mark.)
Another example of the same coin from a different mint:
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Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
I'll have to look at post 14 later.
The photos as displayed are pretty good. When blown up, not so much.
That "5" and "1" on the back are "S" and "P". Looks like Minerva/Pax/Victory holding an eagle on her right hand. Can't make out what's ni the left hand.
Lettering on the front appears to contain "LLI" and maybe an "A" or "E" after that. My coin has "SH?" or "SA?" Could be "S AVG." That may be enough to find it.
The photos as displayed are pretty good. When blown up, not so much.
That "5" and "1" on the back are "S" and "P". Looks like Minerva/Pax/Victory holding an eagle on her right hand. Can't make out what's ni the left hand.
Lettering on the front appears to contain "LLI" and maybe an "A" or "E" after that. My coin has "SH?" or "SA?" Could be "S AVG." That may be enough to find it.
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Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
OK, I think post 14 coin (and my avatar) is:
O: GALLIENVS AVG (Gallienus : August 253- September 268)
R: VICTORIA AET : Victoria (an angel) stands facing left, holding wreath in right hand and a palm leaf in the left hand. Letters S and P on either side of her.
Siscia mint (Sisak, Croatia)
RIC 5A #586
I found that this coin is listed as Common in RIC, which means it might be in the $10-$15 range for the condition we have.
It took both of our coins for me to figure it out.
A "better" example of the legends:
O: GALLIENVS AVG (Gallienus : August 253- September 268)
R: VICTORIA AET : Victoria (an angel) stands facing left, holding wreath in right hand and a palm leaf in the left hand. Letters S and P on either side of her.
Siscia mint (Sisak, Croatia)
RIC 5A #586
I found that this coin is listed as Common in RIC, which means it might be in the $10-$15 range for the condition we have.
It took both of our coins for me to figure it out.
A "better" example of the legends:
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Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
This is a PDF download of a PowerPoint presentation describing every concept of cleaning ancient coins.
The Art Of Cleaning Ancient Coins by Kevin R. Sandes
The Art Of Cleaning Ancient Coins by Kevin R. Sandes
Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
Thank you! They are going to take an oil bath for a week and then I'll go from there. My coins are pretty dirty so I hope this will break the dirt down.
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Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
Instead of a dental pick, I purchased a set of "picks" used to carve candles. Much cheaper, just as effective.
Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
Oh cool, that's a great idea. I see this becoming an addiction for me... Just don't know where I'd find some more coins like these. I doubt I'll ever buy from eBay, the ones I bought where from an estate auction.
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Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
Once you've cleaned a hundred, or so, you'll probably back off some and start buying them already cleaned up.
It is fun and exciting to uncover these treasures, but it is also a lot of detailed work.
Take a look here:Forvm Ancient Coins
The real trick is learning to identify them.
You will likely need to get a scale: small, that can weigh down in the 0-10 gram range with two digit precision. That's about $10 on eBay.
And something to measure the diameter of the coins in mm. Any common ruler can do this, but see through works best, or a set of calipers. Calipers on eBay run about $10-$15.
Lastly, you need the resources to identify them. That link above is a great start. If you really start enjoying it, then you may want to find a good book on Roman Imperial Coins. The books can be somewhat expensive. So, let me know if you reach that point.
It is fun and exciting to uncover these treasures, but it is also a lot of detailed work.
Take a look here:Forvm Ancient Coins
The real trick is learning to identify them.
You will likely need to get a scale: small, that can weigh down in the 0-10 gram range with two digit precision. That's about $10 on eBay.
And something to measure the diameter of the coins in mm. Any common ruler can do this, but see through works best, or a set of calipers. Calipers on eBay run about $10-$15.
Lastly, you need the resources to identify them. That link above is a great start. If you really start enjoying it, then you may want to find a good book on Roman Imperial Coins. The books can be somewhat expensive. So, let me know if you reach that point.
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Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
Not to hijack a thread, but that's pretty impressive. 1878 Maranville Coin Tester.
Don't forget this one for American coins of 1879: Or the pocket size Gold coin scale. (Even tests For'n gold coins)
Don't forget this one for American coins of 1879: Or the pocket size Gold coin scale. (Even tests For'n gold coins)
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Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
You are doing really well!
The first coin... I'll have to break out the book.
But, you can see the pointy crown implying a Antonianias (2 Denari)
The hole was put in by the owner to put it on a necklace or bracelet.
Carus, Sept 282 - July 283
Obverse: IMP C M AVR CARVS P F AVG
(I can just make out CAR_S PF. All versions with VIRTVS AVGG have the obverse above.)
Reverse: VIRTVS AVGG
Made in Rome : KAG
Example: The second coin is Valentinius II, 17 Nov 375 - 15 May 392 AD.
Obverse: D N VALENTINIANVS IVN P F AVG
Reverse: VOT V MVLT X
Made in Siscia : ASISC
Example:
The first coin... I'll have to break out the book.
But, you can see the pointy crown implying a Antonianias (2 Denari)
The hole was put in by the owner to put it on a necklace or bracelet.
Carus, Sept 282 - July 283
Obverse: IMP C M AVR CARVS P F AVG
(I can just make out CAR_S PF. All versions with VIRTVS AVGG have the obverse above.)
Reverse: VIRTVS AVGG
Made in Rome : KAG
Example: The second coin is Valentinius II, 17 Nov 375 - 15 May 392 AD.
Obverse: D N VALENTINIANVS IVN P F AVG
Reverse: VOT V MVLT X
Made in Siscia : ASISC
Example:
Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
That is so cool! I was going to quit cleaning them and take them to someone but I don't think I have anything of value. They are old and rough.
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Re: Coins from an auction and I have NO clue
You can usually sell the lower grade ancient coins for about $3-$6 each, if you sell them as a lot containing all the coins in one gripe. Those interested are looking for a cheap set to practice on.
My lower grades are usually relegated to being gifts for youth, or I donate them to a history teacher in elementary schools.
On the other hand, these are the perfect ones to START learning to clean. You can damage them without affecting their value. The CARUS coin would likely improve by using a bamboo skewer, candle scraper, or brass brush. (Depends on your patience.)
Valentianus probably won't improve.
I would buy the Markianos and Gallienus off of you at those prices. (Because, I already figured out what they are. They are not likely to improve much by cleaning.) widegrin
My lower grades are usually relegated to being gifts for youth, or I donate them to a history teacher in elementary schools.
On the other hand, these are the perfect ones to START learning to clean. You can damage them without affecting their value. The CARUS coin would likely improve by using a bamboo skewer, candle scraper, or brass brush. (Depends on your patience.)
Valentianus probably won't improve.
I would buy the Markianos and Gallienus off of you at those prices. (Because, I already figured out what they are. They are not likely to improve much by cleaning.) widegrin
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