1922 Peace $ Trying to figure Grade & Mint Mark
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1922 Peace $ Trying to figure Grade & Mint Mark
I am new to coin collecting. I was sold this coin as it is marked on holder.
I take it that not all Peace $ have a mint mark.
It does seem to be a nice coin. Some of what looks like a scratch is actually the plastic. Can anyone help me with this?
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
William
I take it that not all Peace $ have a mint mark.
It does seem to be a nice coin. Some of what looks like a scratch is actually the plastic. Can anyone help me with this?
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
William
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Re: 1922 Peace $ Trying to figure Grade & Mint Mark
Welcome to the forum and thanks for asking your question. The mint mark on Peace Dollars is located on the back (reverse) under the word ONE. Since this Peace doesn't have a mint mark then it was minted at Philadelphia, and they didn't put mint marks on coin in 1922.
Also, the "scratch" appears to be a harmless die crack. I can't be sure from the pictures. I would also need better pics to help grade the coin. It looks at least MS64 from the pictures, but don't hold me to that. Again thanks for posting!
Here are two links on my website that can help you http://coinauctionshelp.com/Peace_Silver_Dollar.html
http://coinauctionshelp.com/Peace_Dolla ... Guide.html
Also, the "scratch" appears to be a harmless die crack. I can't be sure from the pictures. I would also need better pics to help grade the coin. It looks at least MS64 from the pictures, but don't hold me to that. Again thanks for posting!
Here are two links on my website that can help you http://coinauctionshelp.com/Peace_Silver_Dollar.html
http://coinauctionshelp.com/Peace_Dolla ... Guide.html
Re: 1922 Peace $ Trying to figure Grade & Mint Mark
I do have a question on these Peace dollars. On the word Trust, why did they use a V instead of a U? Was it because of the tight space they had to work with? Or does any one know?
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Re: 1922 Peace $ Trying to figure Grade & Mint Mark
All that I read about this, is that a V is a Roman Numeral and it was common in the 1920's to use Roman Numerials in place of certain letters. So it was nothing more than using V in place of a U in an "artistic sense".
I guess the modern counterpart would be words "Boyz" or "I (insert heart image) you" or "I luv you". It's the only thing I have ever found out about this.
I guess the modern counterpart would be words "Boyz" or "I (insert heart image) you" or "I luv you". It's the only thing I have ever found out about this.
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Thanks for your welcome and help.
The only thing I see on the coin is some very light mint marks. That aren't showing up in the scan.
Thanks for the info on the mint. I looked all over, thinking I was missing something.
William
The only thing I see on the coin is some very light mint marks. That aren't showing up in the scan.
Thanks for the info on the mint. I looked all over, thinking I was missing something.
William
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Re: 1922 Peace $ Trying to figure Grade & Mint Mark
Your welcome, but I don't see a mint mark on the coin.
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So even on this coin the die crack would not devalue the coin much?
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A die crack doesn't devalue a coin. The only way the value of this coin could be lower is if the person looking at the coin either, thinks it a scratch or they feel it takes away from the eye appeal.
Many VAMs and early coin varieties will have die cracks and sometimes the cracks in the die can help with authentication. The 1914-D Lincoln Cent is a perfect, but only one example. The obverse, near the rim and under Lincoln's Chest there must be a die crack or it's not authentic.
Many VAMs and early coin varieties will have die cracks and sometimes the cracks in the die can help with authentication. The 1914-D Lincoln Cent is a perfect, but only one example. The obverse, near the rim and under Lincoln's Chest there must be a die crack or it's not authentic.
Re: 1922 Peace $ Trying to figure Grade & Mint Mark
On every single 1914 D there has to have both these cracks. How did they accomplish that?
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No just one die crack. The mint struck only 1,193,000 1914-D Cents so they only used a couple of dies. However, many of the examples that survive today do have this die crack. I'm not saying or didn't mean to make it sound like ALL of them have to have this very same die crack, but it's one aspect of this Key Date to look for.
I goofed on how I said this one. It's more than just a die crack, and more about the shape of the mint mark. Also, the fact that most fake 1914-D cents are altered 1944-D cents, and the 1914-D will not have V.D.B. and the mint mark is more "boxy" than the 44-D.
For those who don't know, In 1909 most cents had v.d.b. on the back of the coin, and along the most lower part of the rim. These designer initials where removed until 1918, but they put then on the front, just under Lincoln's shoulder. So, an authentic 1914-D will not have any v.d.b., and while looking at the first 1 in the date and the area under the shoulder, make sure there's not rub or scratch marks in either area. If there is, then it might be an altered 1944-D.
I goofed on how I said this one. It's more than just a die crack, and more about the shape of the mint mark. Also, the fact that most fake 1914-D cents are altered 1944-D cents, and the 1914-D will not have V.D.B. and the mint mark is more "boxy" than the 44-D.
For those who don't know, In 1909 most cents had v.d.b. on the back of the coin, and along the most lower part of the rim. These designer initials where removed until 1918, but they put then on the front, just under Lincoln's shoulder. So, an authentic 1914-D will not have any v.d.b., and while looking at the first 1 in the date and the area under the shoulder, make sure there's not rub or scratch marks in either area. If there is, then it might be an altered 1944-D.
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Yes I do know on some of the LMC's it is difficult to see the VDB with a 30x. I have some 58's that I still can not see the VDB. So I am not sure if it was a filled die or a mistake on the die. They may have been a few early coins. Then the die was corrected? BUt there is no VDB from what I can see even under my microscope.
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I will have to find them. They were in a 10 pcack. They were in mint condition, IE, still brilliant red. I will have to see if I can get a shot of the area in a close up for others to make a comment.
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Re: 1922 Peace $ Trying to figure Grade & Mint Mark
MS 93?
~Isaiah
EDIT: Nice typo, eh? :roll: I MEANT to say MS 63.
~Isaiah
EDIT: Nice typo, eh? :roll: I MEANT to say MS 63.
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Re: 1922 Peace $ Trying to figure Grade & Mint Mark
Your Peace dollar may be what is called a VAM go to VAMworld and check out the guide
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