1959 Black beauty nickel?
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
Ok...got it back and it is graded as MS63 "Improper Alloy Mix". Does that mean this is a black beauty ?
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
Congrats on the error verification and grade! Also curious to know if sintered planchets are considered Improper Allow Mixes or if there are different?
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
My guess would be no just from the wording. From what I understand sintered planchet got heated to much. Improperly mixed alloys seems like what went into the planchet had a wrong mixture. Seems different to me anyway.
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
Well, I did some research and found more confusing information.One guy said that PCGS called it a sintered planchet,ANACS called it Improper Alloy Mix, and NGC called it improper annealing. I wish there were some consistency on this one.Even when it comes to what causes it,there are several theories. However, I'm now inclined to believe this is a "black beauty" simply because it is black,lustrous,and isn't the result of tampering or environment.
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
Here is another twist...but it may explain why ANACS called it improperly mixed:"I was at a show this weekend and showed it to Alan Herbert (author of the Official Price Guide to Error Coins) and he indicated that they've determined the reason for the black beauty's is that the ore mixture contained a high amount of silicon, which melted and darkened in the process. He indicated he couldn't determine if mine was authentic without a microscope which he didn't have available."
I copied that one from the Coin Talk forum.
I copied that one from the Coin Talk forum.
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
Well back to my coin. Do you guys think that mine might be a black beauty now? :l
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
I think the only way to be sure is send it in to a reputable grading company...I'm going to send my second one in when I get a definite answer as to whether improperly mixed equates to black beauty....I finally sent the question directly to ANACS..still waitingNolifeking wrote:Well back to my coin. Do you guys think that mine might be a black beauty now? :l
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
Finally...I got my answer from ANACS.Yes the "Improperly Mixed Alloy" designation is a "Black Beauty". :bouncing:
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
The price for the nickel was $20 including postage...I sent in 5 coins and total was $100 for everything....but they have specials too...I just got an email offering 5 coins for the price of 7 and saw an ad online for another special.Nolifeking wrote:So what does it cost to send coins in?
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
A little steep for me right now. I really should give it a shot though. I'm sure I can come up with 5 coins to send in. I've been really wanting to get my rotated die nickel sent in and my 1984 doubled ear penny.Maineman750 wrote:The price for the nickel was $20 including postage...I sent in 5 coins and total was $100 for everything....but they have specials too...I just got an email offering 5 coins for the price of 7 and saw an ad online for another special.Nolifeking wrote:So what does it cost to send coins in?
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
Unless you plan on selling, there really is no hurry to send them in, especially when you know what you have. I save mine until there is a special and I have the extra cash.But I forgot to mention,you can send just one...it may end up towards $25...depends on what you put as the value too as insurance isn't cheap.
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I sent a roll of those to ANACS. All came back as Black Beauties, although some were black, some were like gunmetal gray or even lighter. All said "Improper Ally Mix" graded MS63 or MS64. When I asked why they said that, they stated that they and PCGS agreed that was why they are BLACK!!
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I think I need to send mine in. I think I have enough coins now to send in quite a few. Just need to wait and save up some money so I can send in 5 at once.
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
They run different specials quite a bit, so you'll just have to keep checking.Nolifeking wrote:I think I need to send mine in. I think I have enough coins now to send in quite a few. Just need to wait and save up some money so I can send in 5 at once.
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If you have coin collector friends, you can pool your coins and send them in together. When you can send in a large amount of coins, cost could be like 10 bucks a coin. I send them in economy and wait patiently the get them back. It takes time, but you cannot beat the price.If you guys are close together geographicly, you can pool you submissions.
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
good idea, only I don't have any collector friends nearby...just joined a club though, and once I know who I'm dealing with,that is a great option.dipper13 wrote:If you have coin collector friends, you can pool your coins and send them in together. When you can send in a large amount of coins, cost could be like 10 bucks a coin. I send them in economy and wait patiently the get them back. It takes time, but you cannot beat the price.If you guys are close together geographicly, you can pool you submissions.
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I'll have to keep an eye out for deals. How many do you have to send in at once to get them done for only 10 bucks a coin?dipper13 wrote:If you have coin collector friends, you can pool your coins and send them in together. When you can send in a large amount of coins, cost could be like 10 bucks a coin. I send them in economy and wait patiently the get them back. It takes time, but you cannot beat the price.If you guys are close together geographicly, you can pool you submissions.
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I called the company when I found the black beauty nickels. I asked for someone who could help me with pricing. I was instructed to send the whole roll in under economy. when you send one type coin,same date etc they can do them more easily. I guess that because they did the whole roll, they charged me what they thought was fair. I was surprised, but I really liked the way they responded. I also earlier this year sent in 25 Presidential proof sets to be graded (69/70 only) They gave me that price but did all 100 coins, they all were pr 69 dCam or better! Dan
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Re: 1959 Black beauty nickel?
This one is just toned and circulated. A black beauty you want uncirculated to have any extra value and sometimes it's difficult to get that attributed on the label.
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