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Post your TOP pieces and how TPG rated them.

#1 Unread post by Jsul77798 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:55 pm

So as it says, I thought itd be cool to see how people have made out by submitting a coin thought to be the best of the best top MS and what grade it got. Was it given the grade you thought it should be :trophy: ? Or undergraded in your opinion and driving you nuts after comparing it ruthlessly to other examples :swear ? Did a late die stage knock you a point? Was it toned colorfully, bright or a bit dull? A contact mark far from any focal point get ya? What have you learned?

So post what you feel were that top top grade coin you picked, how they came back from TPG, any difference between the big 3 TPG and what lessons were learned in your hunt for that gem.

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#2 Unread post by Daniel » Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:49 pm

Almost no one gets the top pop grade they think they're coin is; and I assume you're talking about cents here. The only thing there is to learn is when submitting coins to try and get the money you grade, prepare to lose money and that it's like rolling the dice and playing the lottery. There's nothing else you're going to learn and I've studied this more than most and been disappointed more than most.

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#3 Unread post by BABAKAFSHAR » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:42 pm

In PCGS Their graders grade 60-70 coins per hour means less than a minute for each coin (because they get paid $1 per coins) , based on that making a mistake is not impossible and I think they have (the graders) order not to grade a coin higher than a specific grade no matter what the coin looks like another thing is (my opinion only) in their system they have something special for special people and their coins are the top pop always. It’s business and they making money from it and they don’t care about the hubby . If you check top pop coins you’ll see they start to show up at a certain time and finish at a certain time too .THIS IS THE WAY BUSINESS IS AND NO ONE CAN FIX IT ... my dad always told me you’d be an stupid if you think you’re going to get one of those high grades and I never listen but now I’m sure he was right

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#4 Unread post by Jsul77798 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:58 am

I agree with all thats being said and because of that it makes it really tough to pony up the greenbacks not being 110% confident youll get the proper grade if luck lets ya stumble onto a real gem. Just thought it would be a cool thread to see and study the pieces people thought for sure were right there but didnt come back that well. What would ya say about this? 43 S Jefferson. Not a mark on it more than the lightest scratch and even hardly a 1 of them. Sadly not the best date or FS but prob the cleanest Jefferson Ive come across. Has a really nice rainbow tone too. Pics do NOT do it justice at all and makes the tone pattern look like marks in a few areas...Anyways, thought itd be a cool discussion and thread to toss around and show of the goods......
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#5 Unread post by Daniel » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:38 am

You're Jefferson Nickel looks cleaned in these images.

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#6 Unread post by Jsul77798 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:39 pm

Yea, my camera just wont capture the detail needed to give justice at all to what this thing truly looks like. Any striations you might be seeing are the pattern of the tarnish/tone. Other than that I can assure you with all the confidence I can that there are zero hairlines on this that would point to a cleaning. I cant say there may not have been a quik dip at some point but nothing over done or negativy altering as far as I can tell....Is there something other than that which pointed to cleaning? Again, the pics are the best I could do but dont do justice...

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#7 Unread post by Daniel » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:10 pm

Toning is consistent with a cleaning and it does look like lines on the reverse.

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#8 Unread post by Jsul77798 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:54 am

When yiu say cleaning, you mean being dipped, correct? No contest, you have much more experience on that and the signs of it than i do. I cant see any evidence whatsoever of abrasion anywhere though and Ive looked as close and careful as i can. Assuming you do mean being dipped, are you saying you see characteristics of an overly dipped and then toned coin and Is that the striation pattern of the toning? Thanks for your time and input.

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#9 Unread post by Jsul77798 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:59 am

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I just looked at the pics again and think I see what you are talking about. Just got a chance to really re inspect this thing. If Im reading the marking correctly, it looks like the lines you are seeing are die abrasion. Obv are clearly raised when really inspected as are the Rev..There do appear to be a very few though that I think are from contact but are very light and very tough to see well with the tone...I somehow dropped the res on my camera and fixed that so here are a few more pics....The obv are def die abrasion. The rev appear to be also best I can judge....Is there a "tell" you see that says otherwise?
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#10 Unread post by mikev50 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:18 pm

pcgs did a fine job on the grade--
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