1857 PHILLY MINT OF FOREIGN COINS?

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1857 PHILLY MINT OF FOREIGN COINS?

#1 Unread post by PALH1 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:50 pm

i found good/better images of the 1857 "pattern" coinage.....but, did they strike any "foreign coinage" in 1857 at the phil mint?? :dunno whistling2:
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Re: 1857 PHILLY MINT OF FOREIGN COINS?

#2 Unread post by mhonzell » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:15 pm

Act of January 29, 1874 which read:
“Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That it shall be lawful for coinage to be executed at the mints of the United States, for any foreign countries applying for the same, according to the legally prescribed standards and devices of such country, under such regulations as the Secretary of the Treasury may prescribe; and the charge for the same shall be equal to the expense thereof, including labor, materials, and use of machinery, to be fixed by the Director of the Mint, with the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury: Provided, That the manufacture of such coin shall not interfere with the required coinage of the United States.”

The first foreign coinage manufactured by a US Mint was for Venezula in 1875. (The 1 and 2.5 Centavo.)

Prior to this, a coin was made in 1833 for Liberia, but it is now considered a Hard Times Token.

There is "rumor" that some other coins were made between 1833 and 1855, but nothing from 1855 to 1875.

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Re: 1857 PHILLY MINT OF FOREIGN COINS?

#3 Unread post by PALH1 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:20 pm

m,
were the [b"]U.K.'s"[/b] hit here?
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#4 Unread post by PALH1 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:31 pm

d,
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#5 Unread post by PALH1 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:58 pm

i find ALL U.K. COINS made in LONDON

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#6 Unread post by mhonzell » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:24 pm

1857 : London Mint of UK coins


Copper
These look alike, but different diameters.
  • Farthing : 1.07M coins, 22mm
  • Half Penny : 1.18M coins, 28mm
  • Penny : 0.75M coins, 34mm
1857 Farthing, Half Penny, or Penny.jpg
Silver
  • Groat : only made as a proof
  • Three pence : 1.77M coins, 16.25mm
    1857 Three Pence.jpg
  • Sixpence : 2.23M coins, 19mm
    1857 Sixpence.jpg
  • Shilling : 2.56M coins, 24mm
    1857 Shilling.jpg
  • Florin : 1.67M coins, 30mm
    1857 Florin.jpg
Gold
  • Half Sovereign : 0.73M coins, 19mm
    1857 Half Sovereign.jpg
  • Sovereign : 4.95M coins, 22mm
    1857 Sovereign.jpg

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Re: 1857 PHILLY MINT OF FOREIGN COINS?

#7 Unread post by PALH1 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:23 pm

i'm looking / working on a 1857 SLQ multi-denom obv clash puzzle

d, "smiles" do not attach when clicked......fyi

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Re: 1857 PHILLY MINT OF FOREIGN COINS?

#8 Unread post by PALH1 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:30 pm

[quote="mhonzell"]1857 : London Mint of UK coins


Copper
These look alike, but different diameters.
  • Farthing : 1.07M coins, 22mm
  • Half Penny : 1.18M coins, 28mm
  • Penny : 0.75M coins, 34mm
1857 Farthing, Half Penny, or Penny.jpg
Silver
  • Groat : only made as a proof
  • Three pence : 1.77M coins, 16.25mm
    1857 Three Pence.jpg
  • Sixpence : 2.23M coins, 19mm
    1857 Sixpence.jpg
  • Shilling : 2.56M coins, 24mm
    1857 Shilling.jpg
  • Florin : 1.67M coins, 30mm
    1857 Florin.jpg
Gold
  • Half Sovereign : 0.73M coins, 19mm
    1857 Half Sovereign.jpg
  • Sovereign : 4.95M coins, 22mm
    1857 Sovereign.jpg
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Re: 1857 PHILLY MINT OF FOREIGN COINS?

#9 Unread post by Scubaredneck » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:58 pm

The Denver and San Francisco mints made silver coins for Australia in the 1940s. It seems a rather odd thing to read since the US mint has made lots of coins for other countries. I'm guessing there is an additional context we're missing, some other intent of the law we're not seeing in this snippet.
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Re: 1857 PHILLY MINT OF FOREIGN COINS?

#10 Unread post by mhonzell » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:03 am

Not sure what you are stating Scubaredneck. There were many foreign coins made by the various mints starting from 1874 to present. (Including the 1940s.) The coins in question were prior to 1874 (the year the law was written.)

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