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mhonzell

I'm reposting your photos cropped down and turned so that I can mark them up. Dime: The letters are smaller because the coin has been smashed inwards from the edge resulting in the lettering being deformed. 20160302_134352.jpg The dies were not deformed this way, nor is the planchet cut in the odd s...

mhonzell

Mint errors occur in the process of making a coin. That means that something went wrong between cutting the planchet and actually striking the coin. Once the dies move away from the coin, the coin is considered made. Anything that happens to the coin after this point is Post-mint Damage (PMD). The c...

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The quarter and dime appear to be coins that got some rough treatment in life, but I would consider PMD.
The nickel appears to have environmental damage. There is a lot of roughness to what should be smooth areas on the coin.

None of the three would have been made at the mint like this.

mhonzell

Even prettier than the beloved nickel. I agree! And, I'm jealous about the price you paid. Of course, in 10 years, mine may have doubled in price, as well. widegrin Mine is not a proof, but it's encapsulated to keep the scratches away. ====================== M, your images have become incredible Th...

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Good eye, Paul

mhonzell

They are mirror images. The I, D, O, & E can confuse you because they look the same when upside down. Make sure you are looking at it as you photographed. Compare to similar letters just below on the unaltered area.

mhonzell

I've been watching these coins for some time... (10 years) And, it was finally time to go in for one. (Mostly because I got it for 'spot' price.)
A beautiful coin Mr. Fraser.

mhonzell

Actually, both words; ONE DIME are backwards.

This happened when another DIME was laid on top of this one and smashed into it leaving a reverse image from the other DIME.

It is considered PMD (post-mint damage) and adds no value to the coin.

mhonzell

Just a side note: Colorized Silver Eagles are actually pretty common. You can find them by looking for the phrase "Colorized Silver Eagle" on Google. This is why we are asking you about the dealer you mention. He told you this was rare and that got us concerned. The going price for a new c...

mhonzell

Could you post a photo of these dateless coins? That would really help us.
But, what I suspect is that you have a 2009, or later, Sacagewa dollar and the date is probably on the edge of the coin.

mhonzell

Welcome!

mhonzell

Welcome!

It is always recommended that you collect what moves you the most!

We would like to make sure you are getting a good deal on the money you spend, so let us know more about this Franklin coin.

mhonzell

Just for your info, I don't know of any Indian Head Cent that has a misplaced date on the reverse side.

mhonzell

Quite possible, but kind of difficult to tell in this photo.

As always, a photo of the whole coin, front and back helps immensely. Then, we can use information from the rest of the coin to find others like it for comparison.

mhonzell

I don't think the article's photo did the coin justice.

Yet, not sure I take anymore comfort knowing PCGS is tapping my coins on their desk. widegrin

mhonzell

PALH1 wrote:M, do they ever "ASSAY" these old ones...?

I would hope so, but I do not know. Some of these have to be in really bad shape and worthy of an assay to officially classify the rest.

mhonzell

I don't know if you know that I seem to have a liking for colonial and civil war tokens. In that mix, I have a complete set of Washington Portrait Pieces (1783) minus one... the Georgius Triumpho Token, which is strongly considered part of that group of coins due to having the same date. I've been l...

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I didn't think so, but it's an interesting "Mint error."

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Well, it's a US Mint error, but of a slightly different kind. Wonder what these Original Government Packages are going to sell for? (PS. It's the Clad coin set. The other two sets didn't make it out the door before they were noticed.) The picture shown for Cumberland Gap National Historical Park in ...

mhonzell

This coin was turned on a lathe to remove the reverse. Another coin would be altered so that the head side remained with the rim missing. The two are then put together to create a two-headed coin.

See the seam on the "reverse" side of the coin... (two rims)

mhonzell

What you see is where another penny was pressed into this one. This occurred after the coin left the mint, so it is named Post Mint Damage (PMD).

It adds no value to the coin.

mhonzell

Nice comeback photos!

mhonzell

Actually, I see it as well, but on the R loop and right leg. Also, on the T's crossbar.

mhonzell

Yeah, just found a good picture source for the DDR-001 and DDR-002. I see the differences now. I'd also go with 001.

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I don't think the 001 has all the obverse polishing and less on the reverse. I'm not 100% on this. But, what I could find indicated that a die clash occurred later in the 001's life that the mint tried to "clean up". It may be the 001. I was looking for some feedback. Especially since the ...

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This coin should make you wonder "What happened?" A 1983 DDR. I don't know if it has a FS number. Some places refer to this as DDR-002. Somewhere during the doubled die pair's life, a clash occurs and some major polishing to the dies occur. (I suppose that makes this MDS, but it doesn't ha...

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Welcome, Tutu!

Hope you find something that peaks your interest. Feel free to ask questions.

And, just to warn you, you are likely to find some Greek in here as it applies to the really old coins. widegrin

mhonzell

Excellent find, Paul. The dentils between these two arrows are not all the same length. Visibly different is a bad sign.

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Link 1 :While interesting, they all have problems with being correct. And, the article ends with, we still don't know. Link 2 :Leads me back to needing a hands on look at the coin. Link 4 : Is a questioning forum that leads to the article in Link 1, which says we don't know. As stated, from the imag...

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Several of us have microscopes if you'd like a better opinion. I have to say when I looked close at some of these, I was thinking the lines might be raised. But, photos can create optical illusions because you can't move the coin to gather info from other angles. Daniel or Paul have a lot more exper...

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Improper annealing would be my guess on the discoloration, especially the mottled reverse.
The lines appear to be an attempt to scrub the coin (ie. wire brush?) since they are not all parallel and differing widths. I'd bet on PMD.

mhonzell

The correct weight of 1914 Yuan Shih Kai silver dollar should be from 26.5g to 26.9g. Diameter should be from 38.50mm to 39mm and thickness: 2.5mm. These were made with 89% silver content and the remainder was copper. Modern imitations can be purchased for $2.59 each. While the company selling them ...

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Daniel wrote:It is a self process for us P. We know that well, but people come here because they're confused or can't find the info they need elsewhere.

Exactly!

mhonzell

Hope you don't mind, but I was really interested and wanted to see the details, so I cleaned up the bottom two photos. Should be pretty clear now. :greatfind: Hard to tell from the reverse photo, but there should be three die breaks: the one you have shown, one at 2:30 and a heavy one at 7:00. On th...

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Heritage puts this at about $1200, when not damaged. Burnished is something the mint has been doing since 2006 to make it look better than a business strike. Since this is before that time, Burnished can mean harshly cleaned and is likely the reason for the Details grade. I think this coin is damage...

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I had found conflicting information on the 1783 Washington and Independance and was wondering what is the correct answer. One site referred to it as a coin and another said medal. We can't tell if the strike is as a medal/token or a coin without having it in hand to flip it. But with there being no...

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I thought so also. (Was waiting on the outcome.)

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I especially like the ability to jump to New Posts. In the event there are more than the few listed in the preview box, I am able to jump to the others directly.

mhonzell

Glad you found a coin this one is based on! That helps immensely and adds another coin to my visual collection. There are quite a few versions of this coin. (Mostly changes in the king's headdress.) A Bactrain coin: The text on the front should say: þAONANOþAO KA ... NηþKI KOþANO (King of Kings Kani...

mhonzell

Look like the reeded edge of another coin left a scar. That would be considered PMD.

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